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Old Posted Aug 4, 2020, 4:17 PM
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Are you really saying gated communities are heavily democrat?

Are you REALLY saying that?

REALLY?
I think this is probably a fair statement, in 2020, at least.

A majority of those living in gated-style communities (which are overwhelmingly sprawl typologies) will probably vote Dem, at least for Prez.

Of course those same communities probably went for McCain, Bush, Reagan, and Romney, but allegiances have shifted, and demographics have changed.

Looking at census-tract level gated areas of suburban Detroit, they seemed to vote about 55% Clinton in 2016, so 60% in 2020 sounds like a safe bet given the pace of realignment. Also communities that were near-100% white are increasingly Asian, and Asians overwhelmingly vote Dem.

Of course, this is all balanced by the fact that rural areas have gone from 50-50 to 75-25 red.
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I think this is probably a fair statement, in 2020, at least.

A majority of those living in gated-style communities (which are overwhelmingly sprawl typologies) will probably vote Dem, at least for Prez.

Of course those same communities probably went for McCain, Bush, Reagan, and Romney, but allegiances have shifted, and demographics have changed.

Looking at census-tract level gated areas of suburban Detroit, they seemed to vote about 55% Clinton in 2016, so 60% in 2020 sounds like a safe bet given the pace of realignment. Also communities that were near-100% white are increasingly Asian, and Asians overwhelmingly vote Dem.

Of course, this is all balanced by the fact that rural areas have gone from 50-50 to 75-25 red.
Nowhere demonstrates this better than Orange County. The famously conservative (for Coastal California) county that has long been a red stronghold in a sea of blue not only went blue for Clinton in 2016, but also flipped a number of House seats blue in 2018. Educated, well off people who live in somewhat cosmopolitan environments are completely put off by the anti-science, brazenly racist MAGA crowd. That, and as you say, the burbs are becoming more diverse.
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2020, 5:59 PM
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Nowhere demonstrates this better than Orange County. The famously conservative (for Coastal California) county that has long been a red stronghold in a sea of blue not only went blue for Clinton in 2016, but also flipped a number of House seats blue in 2018. Educated, well off people who live in somewhat cosmopolitan environments are completely put off by the anti-science, brazenly racist MAGA crowd. That, and as you say, the burbs are becoming more diverse.
Right, and Orange County still isn't remotely liberal. Places like Newport Beach and Dana Point are still culturally and economically conservative (not rural Alabama conservative but grumpy old rich WASP conservative).

Yes, there have been demographic changes, but it's the national party that changed, and these voters switched sides. And really the OC coast is still overwhelmingly white.
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Are you really saying gated communities are heavily democrat?


Are you REALLY saying that?


REALLY?
?

these are pre-war gated streets and suburbs, which i guess aren’t common everywhere..new orleans? ( st louis mimicked some of new orleans social structure, veiled prophet etc). but, even if they weren't...

but i mean i’m describing the actual glowing core of where the levers of power of both a county and a seperate city democratic party do reside in a place and there are iron gates from 1888 and 1919 and whatever with blm signs behind them, what else can i say?
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