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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy
Isn't the whole point towards EV to force people to clean up the air we breath.
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Which they do. We have data on well-to-wheels emissions.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...61920916301973
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...12827118309570
But more to the point, EVs are catching on for economic reasons. Not because people give a shit about the environment. If they cared about the environment, they wouldn't be buying cars at all. The subsidies are driving adoption and battery prices are coming down fast enough that subsidies won't be necessary in a year or two.
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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy
At this point I think high mileage Hybrid is the best option, and stop building 5000lbs SUV's.
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The market is what it is. People are going to buy SUVs. Carmakers are going to sell them. It's better if some of those SUVs are electrified. Also, it's not a choice between electric or hybrid. There's room for both. Which is why car makers sell both.
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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy
Smaller cars with gas and electric until they figure out how to make batteries that don't cause as much pollution. HybridCars use much smaller batteries ofcourse and you don't have to plug them in for 8 hours.
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See above. Small cars are pointless in markets where nobody wants to buy small cars (North America). They work well in places where people do want small cars (Europe, India, etc.). Automakers manufacture accordingly.
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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy
By the way, how much does a Tesla weight. They need to be reduced in size by a lot. This is not about who is right or wrong, its about the best options at this point in time.
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A Tesla's weight is entirely irrelevant. Despite it's weight, it outperforms a lot of gas cars and has a lower operating cost compared to all the direct gas/diesel competitors, by an order of magnitude in some jurisdictions.
I have yet to hear someone say, "I won't buy that sedan because it weighs too much." Nobody gives a shit about weight unless they are buying a truck and it impacts their towing capacity.
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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy
The Mazda Miata is normal steel construction and is less then 2400lbs. It can be done but they have to be smaller.
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How many Miatas did Mazda sell and how does that compare to the heaviest Tesla?