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NY Times says that 13,000 rental apartment completions are expected this year in NYC.

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I wonder how many condo completions?
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NY Times says that 13,000 rental apartment completions are expected this year in NYC.

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I wonder how many condo completions?
Some of these numbers for NYC are weird in this thread (Not the one from your post). I know DC constructs a lot, but there is no way in hell such a tiny city in both area and population constructs roughly equivalent numbers to NYC. I think what most people are posting are New York county numbers, which covers just Manhattan island, and not NYC as a whole.

NYC citywide permits filed (all 5 counties) is 43,000 (!) units for 2014.

Here is a table of permit filings for 2013 and 2014 broken down by borough:

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DC has a lot of land to build on and natural demand for apartments/condos. NYC is adding scrapers, but some are very scanty when it comes to total units.
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DC has a lot of land to build on and natural demand for apartments/condos. NYC is adding scrapers, but some are very scanty when it comes to total units.
This is not true, here is a breakdown by floor average for each borough, the average building constructed in NYC is only 7 stories high. Whats posted on construction forums is a tiny amount of city construction, since these are skyscraper forums after all. Those supertalls with 50 apartment units do not impact the total city averages at all, they are a drop in the bucket.
This is to be expected since NYC added ~75% of DC's population just in the last 4 years in raw numbers, those people have to live somewhere. Also, NYC still have a lot more vacant/undeveloped land than DC, and this comes from the fact that it is simply a much bigger city in land area (304 vs 61). Just off the top of my head, we have 2 abandoned airports within city limits alone...


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DC has a lot of land to build on and natural demand for apartments/condos. NYC is adding scrapers, but some are very scanty when it comes to total units.
NYC (city and metro) has many times more units being built than DC.

NYC area has, by far, the most multifamily development in the U.S. The Houston area has, by far, the most single family development in the U.S.

The Census now has the 2014 year-end totals posted.
http://www.census.gov/construction/b...t3yu201412.txt
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Yup. Also for the record, keep in mind that in terms of construction, most of it are not scrapers but actually midsized developments in the range of 6-8 floors on average. Most construction being in Queens/Brooklyn. I'm looking forward to the population figures for 2015. The city is vastly undercounted. I have my suspicions that if we include illegal residents, the population is close to 8.7 mil if not more since there are a estimated 500k illegals. There are also a lot of units that aren't counted as a whole. Ussually basement units, which are found in the outer boroughs more so than Manhattan.
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Tons of statistics for 200 U.S. metros: http://www.realtor.com/data-portal/r...ics?source=web

200 of them. December 2014 Real Estate Data or for the whole year of 2014.
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Tons of statistics for 200 U.S. metros: http://www.realtor.com/data-portal/r...ics?source=web

200 of them. December 2014 Real Estate Data or for the whole year of 2014.
That number is way off for LA... just did a very quick map search and there are currently 34,000 active properties for sale in the LA area.
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They probably meant for that second Atlanta to be Seattle?
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Nah, it is Atlanta, Missouri. The population there is booming.

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Westchester and Long Island Build at Same Pace as Detroit, Hudson County Booms: 2014 in Regional Housing Permit Approvals





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During the run-up to the last market peak, permit approvals across the metropolitan area were increasingly concentrated within the five boroughs, with numbers outside of the city peaking in 2005 and then falling as the market took off. But the balance of production shifted dramatically after 2008, and ever since, the majority of units permitted have been in the region’s suburban counties.

New Jersey is carrying the most weight when it comes to meeting the regional demand for housing. Hudson and Union counties permitted more housing units in 2014 than in any year since the Census started collecting records in 1980, while Bergen County had its best permit year since 1988. For every 1,000 residents, Hudson County approved building permits for 7.1 housing units – on par with the Orlando or Charlotte metropolitan areas.

In Hudson County, Secaucus, Weekhawken, and Harrison led the pack in per capita approvals, authorizing the construction of between 30 and 35 new housing units for every 1,000 residents. Jersey City approved the most in absolute terms, with 2,180 units authorized.

In Union County, the borough of New Providence, with its 12,332 residents and two New Jersey Transit stops, led in per capita permits, with 41 units approved for every 1,000 residents – more than they’d issued every year over the prior two decades combined.

Long Island and Westchester’s numbers, on the other hand, were more like Detroit’s: each of the three counties approved applications for fewer than one housing unit for every 1,000 residents. New York’s closest in-state suburbs were never fast growers, but they were rarely this slow – while counties in New Jersey set records in 2014, annual permitting rates were down two-thirds or more in Westchester and Suffolk from the 2000s peak, and off by more than half in Nassau County.

To the north, Rockland and Orange counties in New York and Fairfield County in Connecticut do a bit better, but are still growing at a pitiful rate, permitting two or fewer housing units per 1,000 residents.

New York City’s housing growth rate sits somewhere in between, on par with other increasingly unaffordable and in-demand coastal cities like San Francisco and Boston. With 2.4 units permitted per 1,000 residents, the five boroughs don’t keep up with the national average, and fall impossibly far from what would needed to truly keep up with demand.

Manhattan does the best, meeting the national rate of 3.3 units permitted per 1,000 residents, but all of the outer boroughs fall short, ranging from 2.9 units in Brooklyn to 1.3 in the Bronx.

A total of 20,483 units were approved throughout the five boroughs in 2014, up from 17,995 the year before but still well below the pre-crash peak in 2008, when 33,911 units were permitted. Curiously, the discrepancy between applications submitted to the DOB and the Census’ official numbers increased dramatically year-over-year.
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There is a lot of rehabbing to be done in Westchester. I know the old office towers in White Plains are being rehabbed into residential.
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NY urban area is lagging Houston, Dallas, even DC at times in permits issued per year, as well as completions. I keep hearing about conversions, underreporting etc but the data doesn't back it up.

Also, I think these are metro area numbers not city proper.

If you spend $1 billion to build a 1500 foot condo tower with 90 units (for example), your're going to have less capital for other projects that could be cheaper and deliver more units. way it goes...
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NY urban area is lagging Houston, Dallas, even DC at times in permits issued per year, as well as completions. I keep hearing about conversions, underreporting etc but the data doesn't back it up.

Also, I think these are metro area numbers not city proper.
Again, why would you even post this when the data does not back you up. Sure NYC builds less per capita, but NYC is 10 times bigger than DC and in absolute numbers it unquestionably builds more.
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If you spend $1 billion to build a 1500 foot condo tower with 90 units (for example), your're going to have less capital for other projects that could be cheaper and deliver more units. way it goes...
Skyscrapers in NYC are not a significant source of construction in the city, they account for maybe 5% of total construction. The average newly constructed building in NYC is 7 stories high.
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Yes. Most of the projects are in Queens and Brooklyn. Not even Manhattan. When most think of the ny, they think the manhattan but this is not the case in construction activity. 6-8 floors being the sweet spot for development. Even the Bronx might I add is seeing a lot of activity.

In terms of skyscrapers, the current cycle is comparable to the early 20's and 60's in terms of its magnitude. Up there in the top 3 era's for skyscraper construction. Even high rises too or structures over ~ 12 floors/100 ft.
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Geez, California cities are lagging far behind. It's so difficult to build anything here. Wonder where San Diego falls on the list. Probably really low.
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^ Yeah. Strange that SD was not on the list
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