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Originally Posted by Uhuniau
We are already set up for all-door boarding, with artics and DD's that have rear-door boarding and card-readers, but in practice, OC Transpo drivers go out of their way to minimize rear-door boarding because of revenue loss. Anything more than that would require space in the ROW that is politically unpalatable to give up to transit - it is ALWAYS politically unpalatable to give up main street space to transit, and main street space for transit has steadily eroded since the 1990s.
See also shelters: to satisfy the cycling demands on Beechwood, bus passengers lost shelter and shelter capacity, which has not been replaced, and never will be.
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My understanding was that the Montreal Rd project is consolidating stops, but there will be more shelters and much higher proportions of the stops will have shelters. (
Also, consolidating stops is a way to speed up transit service).
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The planning docs for Montreal Road forecast that buses will take longer to transit Montreal Road along the rebuilt portion once it is in service.
And yes, Montreal Road transit sucked before, which is (A) why people demanded improvements, (B) why it is unjust that transit plans for the east end have become steadily less ambitious with each decade and each new, successively less ambitious transit plan, and (C) why it stinks that the new Montreal Road is going to be an even poorer transit corridor than it already was. I don't think "it sucks, so let's make it worse" is much of a solution to any problem.
But, as has become abundantly clear, transit does not matter in the urban area of Ottawa. Not politically, not economically, not to anyone. Service can be slashed and run into the ground, and even the councillors who represent us transit users won't care until they are finally pressured into brief moments of performative concern. We have already had that performance for the past decade, so the councillors can sit back and do nothing again until their next performance in about 2027.
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Well, urban transit matters to me. That's why I'm in favour of all of those things I suggested in my previous post. It's even why I was in favour of retaining the four lane section of Montreal Rd from North River to Vanier Pkwy, because the impacts to transit if that section was narrowed were unacceptable. (Now, we need to make sure the curb lanes are dedicated to buses during peak. If we could get bus lane cameras, even better.)
I think we should have a tram on Carling. I think we should have BRT on Baseline, Heron, Walkley, St Laurent, Montreal Rd (east of St Laurent), March Rd, Vanier Pkwy, etc. I think all the "Frequent" routes should have 10 minute service.
But when we're talking about a narrow mainstreet, I'm not in favour of sacrificing the livability of the local neighborhood so that others (whether in cars or on transit) can speed through.
For Bank Street in Centretown, I think we should try something like the King pilot in Toronto to divert car traffic to parallel streets but allow buses to travel straight through. It's probably doable north of Catherine, and it would make a huge difference for the 6 and 7. (The problem is that Kent and O'Connor are the wrong way around- ideally the northbound street would be to the east and the southbound street would be to the west, to enable right turns off the main street).
Montreal Rd is tougher because there are no good parallel streets. That's why there's so much competition for space, because there are no good parallel bike routes either.
IIRC, the projected impact to eastbound buses with Montreal Rd narrowing will be 1-2 minutes. But in return, the cycling and pedestrian environment will improve immensely, and transit riders will get better shelters and better sidewalks to get to the bus stops. I think that's an acceptable trade-off. You clearly disagree, but I'm not sure what would make transit on Montreal Rd significantly faster short of a tunnel.