TORONTO | Bay-Adelaide Centre East Tower | 43 Floors | 196 Meters - Page 3

caltrane74 · #41 Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 3:34 PM**

Application: Demolition Folder (DM) Status: Not Started

Location: 10 ADELAIDE ST W
TORONTO ON M5H 1L6

Ward 28: Toronto Centre-Rosedale

Application#: 12 227520 DEM 00 DM Accepted Date: Aug 10, 2012

Project: Multiple Use/Non Residential Demolition

Description: Proposal to demolish existing 3 sty commercial building. Also backfill basement. Convenience address - 14 Adelaide St W.

Application: Demolition Folder (DM) Status: Not Started

Location: 40 ADELAIDE ST W
TORONTO ON M5H 4E3

Ward 28: Toronto Centre-Rosedale

Application#: 12 227502 DEM 00 DM Accepted Date: Aug 10, 2012

Project: Restaurant Greater Than 30 Seats Demolition

caltrane74 · #42 Posted **Sep 24, 2012, 10:49 PM**

There is word, that this one should begin by December. If not, my best bet would be mid-winter 2013.

Not too much longer now...

caltrane74 · #43 Posted **Oct 28, 2012, 7:53 PM**

Getting ready for the countdown

caltrane74 · #44 Posted **Dec 15, 2012, 3:32 AM**

Hoarding up at Bay Adelaide Centre

Design-mind · #45 Posted **Jan 2, 2013, 7:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by TallBob

Bay Adelaide looks like Herald Square's twin in Calgary! No wonder Brookfields HS in Calgary applied for for a re-design.

You took the words right out of my mouth. When I first saw the renderings for this project I thought this is Herald Square with inset corners rather than rounded. Brookfield is probably using the same drawings with slight variances to save some coin.

Innsertnamehere · #46 Posted **Jan 2, 2013, 8:31 PM**

Far from it. This building will be square, herald quarter will be a rectangle. This will have squared off corners, herald square will have rounded. Not to mention that they will have completely different heights requiring different steel levels and less elevators.

caltrane74 · #47 Posted **Jan 8, 2013, 6:05 PM**

latest rendering....

Dale · #48 Posted **Jan 8, 2013, 7:28 PM**

^ Hey, that's an unexpectedly nice touch!

Redkey · #49 Posted **Jan 9, 2013, 12:44 AM**

No thank you.

Chadillaccc · #50 Posted **Jan 10, 2013, 6:48 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Far from it. This building will be square, herald quarter will be a rectangle. This will have squared off corners, herald square will have rounded. Not to mention that they will have completely different heights requiring different steel levels and less elevators.

I agree, I don't see any similarities at all other than the fact that they aren't masterpiece's... really, what do people actually expect? It's a freakin office tower.

Bay Adelaide West and the original Herald Square looked like carbon-copies, but Bay Adelaide East and the new Herald Square proposal are categorically different. BAE will be a featureless blue box while Herald square will have a tapering form going from 40 meters wide at the bottom to probably about 30 wide at the top, 90 degree corners at the bottom forming into rounded corners at the top, with a major lighting feature in the crown. Plus a really nice public plaza to the south of the main tower on the Southeast corner of the block, across from Calgary's beautiful Hudson's Bay Company building.

isaidso · #51 Posted **Jan 12, 2013, 12:13 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redkey

No thank you.

Agree. Is that 4 floor box supposed to be on Adelaide/Yonge? Are they trying to bore us to death?

DrNest · #52 Posted **Jan 12, 2013, 1:10 AM**

I don't dislike it. It's no worse than the podium alongside FCP.

isaidso · #53 Posted **Jan 17, 2013, 11:21 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrNest

I don't dislike it. It's no worse than the podium alongside FCP.

Which isn't much to write home about either. The bigger issue is that they're needlessly demolishing an old building to make way for it. Toronto needs to save the few buildings with character that it has left. It's shameful that Brookfield has so little regard for this city's architectural heritage. This is what was done with an almost identical looking building exactly 1 block north:

Before:

After:

DrNest · #54 Posted **Jan 18, 2013, 1:20 AM**

I agree that it would be nice to preserve the old brick building, but feel that the proposed glass podium extension isn't out of keeping with others in that vicinity.

isaidso · #55 Posted **Jan 18, 2013, 1:41 AM**

Bay-Adelaide incorporated an old historic building into the glass tower. Why couldn't they do the same here? Or they could even build right up against it. That way they could still get the glass box they covet. Architects are trained to be sensitive to what currently exists, but here it seems they've dropped the ball completely.

Ramako · #56 Posted **Jan 18, 2013, 2:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Bay-Adelaide incorporated an old historic building into the glass tower. Why couldn't they do the same here? Or they could even build right up against it. That way they could still get the glass box they covet. Architects are trained to be sensitive to what currently exists, but here it seems they've dropped the ball completely.

This document suggests that the facade of the heritage building is being transplanted on to the pomo Addition Elle building directly to its north:

http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2...file-49055.pdf

isaidso · #57 Posted **Jan 18, 2013, 5:51 AM**

Does Addition Elle also stretch along Yonge as that's the stretch depicted on that pdf? Maybe I'll go down there tomorrow and have a look.

caltrane74 · #58 Posted **Jan 21, 2013, 9:10 PM**

Site prep?

haljackey · #59 Posted **Jan 22, 2013, 12:27 AM**

Yup, this building should be changed from 'Proposed' to 'Under Construction' on the database: http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=41763

Dwils01 · #60 Posted **Jan 22, 2013, 12:47 AM**

they don't count it as under construction on this site until the crane is up and there is some foundation work.