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Old Posted Mar 11, 2019, 2:11 PM
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In fact, I’d be hard pressed to think of a structure that has a notch like this cut out for an existing building that is not a traditional cantilever. I like it.
The Citigroup Center in NYC may be in the realm of what you're talking about.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2019, 2:56 PM
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I've been walking around for the past 4 days and can see that it's just not the same anymore and it's pretty sad.
You realize that the music portion of SXSW hasn't started yet, right? It will be much busier once that gets started.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2019, 2:59 PM
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I think this embedded structure approach is amazing. It's really the best way to ensure the bungalows become permanent fixtures for the next 30+ years, short of Historic Landmark designation. Interestingly, the neighborhood was added to the National Register of Historic Places in 1985, yet none of the buildings are designated as historic landmarks by the city.

Even still, the HLC must must give permission for an individual structure's demolition, but it doesn't seem that permission is needed for modification.

Side note: here is a good photo of the Citygroup Center: https://www.flickr.com/photos/schizoform/25910655104
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The Citigroup Center in NYC may be in the realm of what you're talking about.
See my comment again. I had mentioned that tower and its problems.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2019, 9:22 PM
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For what it's worth, it sounds to me like Kevin Burns does care about the neighborhood and is taking a measured approach with this project. KVUE interviewed him for it.

https://www.kvue.com/article/money/e...d-12113ea28205
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2019, 7:34 PM
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There was a major update today for the AULCC meeting files.

The site plan was posted. The elevations don't show all of the heights and they don't show the mechanical penthouse roof height, but it lists the main roof as 580 feet. The mechanical roof is probably another 20 feet or so above that.

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...pe_PLAN_01.pdf
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There were two nice AULCC info dumps today. The Design Commission files will also be posted today or tomorrow, and I'm hoping for Travis or Block 185 renderings.

Here are the elevations, and I'm guessing 615'.


ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...9/190404/PLAN/
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It looks very similar to a rectangle.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2019, 7:49 PM
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With that saying roof terrace, I'm wondering if there's a pool deck up there. That kind of suggests some kind of amenity level, otherwise I'm not sure why they'd use the word terrace.
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It looks very similar to a rectangle.
compared to most of the rectangles in this city, this one has great proportions!
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2019, 8:35 PM
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Based on the images provided (rough scale), this tower will be 615' - 625' in total height.
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I'm worried this is going to look too much like 44 East and the Travis towers (what we've seen of them). I'm cool with some sleek glass rectangles, especially of these point-tower proportions, but a cluster isn't going to be good.
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I'm worried this is going to look too much like 44 East and the Travis towers (what we've seen of them). I'm cool with some sleek glass rectangles, especially of these point-tower proportions, but a cluster isn't going to be good.
Here we are worrying about a cluster of four 600' towers. We've come a long ways this decade when we start worrying about that.
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Here we are worrying about a cluster of four 600' towers. We've come a long ways this decade when we start worrying about that.
Haha fair enough. I still like all of these projects so far, and I think the way this one integrates the two bars has a lot of potential, but I was hoping for more out of the facade. The initial rendering at least had a somewhat-interesting white-paneled pattern on the E/W faces and what could have been a decent crown, but this is looking more like it'll only have vertical fins on those sides.
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I'm not sure that Yaletown-Vancouver is something we should aspire to be...

unless countless dystopian monotonous gray glass boxes are your thing.
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Another random photo...yeah that's not cool.


https://www.wired.com/2016/12/aureli...-china-cities/
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I think they'll be fine. While it's true that the shapes are close in design, most buildings are either square or rectangular. I'm more interested in their facades, color and setbacks.

90 Rainey and 44 East are pretty dissimilar in design/color.

It's the height in that neighborhood that is going to be a bit monotonous. There will be at least 5 buildings in that neighborhood that will be 520 to 620 feet. The 4th WeWork tower is the only one that could top that plateau at 700 feet or so.
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Another random photo...yeah that's not cool.
China loves implementing those 1960's US Housing Projects style complexes.

Frightening on many levels.
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China loves implementing those 1960's US Housing Projects style complexes.

Frightening all around.
Yeah, modern day Commie Blocks.
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I think they'll be fine. While it's true that the shapes are close in design, most buildings are either square or rectangular. I'm more interested in their facades, color and setbacks.

90 Rainey and 44 East are pretty dissimilar in design/color.

It's the height in that neighborhood that is going to be a bit monotonous. There will be at least 5 buildings in that neighborhood that will be 520 to 620 feet. The 4th WeWork tower is the only one that could top that plateau at 700 feet or so.
I'm on the same page with you. The problem, at least one of the problems with the above pictures is that they are basically the same size, shape and color. We will be getting a variety of texture and color. What might keep it from being too monotonous is that they won't be stuck to each other like 3rd and Shoal, Proper and Google, and they won't be blobby looking, but tall and slender. If they all get built, this could very well be the most impressive section of dt, skyline speaking. Those buildings in the last picture bewilder me. They a) give me the creeps, b) look taller than they are at 33, 34 floors, maybe its all the windows. For some reason, they remind me of Easter Island.
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