NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS - Page 602

Traynor · #**12021** Posted **Jan 17, 2011, 9:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by MadGnome

It's not an antenna. That's just plain absurd. No antenna is 400 feet tall unless you're talking to submarines at ELF frequencies.

These three structures have antennas for broadcasting, that are between 300 and 400 feet tall.
(The measurements are in meters multiply by 3.281 to get feet)

(Diagrams courtesy SSP)

sw5710 · #**12022** Posted **Jan 17, 2011, 10:10 PM**

Mast or antenna.

gttx · #**12023** Posted **Jan 17, 2011, 11:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by MadGnome

The SOM description of the spire is nonsense put out by someone using big words they don't understand.

Yeah, you got it. Those guys don't know anything about buildings, especially really tall ones. It's a wonder this structure is even standing!

uaarkson · #**12024** Posted **Jan 17, 2011, 11:40 PM**

Another page long discussion about spire vs. antenna and actual heights. Get help, people.

MadGnome · #**12025** Posted **Jan 17, 2011, 11:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by gttx

Yeah, you got it. Those guys don't know anything about buildings, especially really tall ones. It's a wonder this structure is even standing!

I've been erecting towers and antennas for 30 years. You might try looking up "antenna" in the dictionary since you obviously don't have a clue as to what one is. There's a difference between an antenna and the structure that it's mounted on.
And there's a difference between an architect and someone who puts out public relations blurbs.

Those towers that Traynor posted have hundreds of antennas. Over a thousand for the Tokyo Sky Tree. None of them are "hundreds" of feet tall.

The ESB spire is covered with antennas. That doesn't make the whole structure one.

Onn · #**12026** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 12:19 AM**

http://wcrz.com/first-look-at-new-gr...-trade-center/

STR · #**12027** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 12:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by sw5710

Mast or antenna.

Although, colloquially, we use the terms interchangeably, an antenna is only the part that's actually emitting radio waves. The size of an antenna is dictated by the wavelength at which it emits (which means an antenna is usually a multiple of its wavelength for optimum efficiency). There are very few applications and wavelengths that require a 400 foot antenna. None of these applications will be installed on this building.

The bulk of this buildings apex is a mast, upon (and in this case within) which antennas are mounted.

XxBassHunterxX · #**12028** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 12:55 AM**

The view up there is fuzzin awesome!

Rizzo · #**12029** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 1:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by Onn

[IMG]
http://wcrz.com/first-look-at-new-gr...-trade-center/

Incredible. You really appreciate the big-ness when you are up on one of those floors and see the size of the steel and floor heights.

Obey · #**12030** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 1:27 AM**

You can really appreciate how high they are now (and how little tower 4 is which is becoming more and more noticeable).

NYC2ATX · #**12031** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 2:42 AM**

It really gives you a sense of how tall the building is already when you see the city from up there! Fantastic find Onn!

STR · #**12032** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 3:17 AM**

>>>>>>>>

Onn · #**12033** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 3:51 AM**

^
That's like New York 2052.

(Let's hope some of those mega projects actually get built.)

And your welcome for the pictures, the views from up there are simply stunning!!

Don098 · #**12034** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 3:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by uaarkson

Another page long discussion about spire vs. antenna and actual heights. Get help, people.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing as I rolled my eyes reading through everything...

Don098 · #**12035** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 3:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by MadGnome

I've been erecting towers and antennas for 30 years. You might try looking up "antenna" in the dictionary since you obviously don't have a clue as to what one is. There's a difference between an antenna and the structure that it's mounted on.
And there's a difference between an architect and someone who puts out public relations blurbs.

Those towers that Traynor posted have hundreds on antennas. Over a thousand for the Tokyo Sky Tree. None of them are "hundreds" of feet tall.

The ESB spire is covered with antennas. That doesn't make the whole structure one.

Owned. Hahaha

Zapatan · #**12036** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 4:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by Onn

^
That's like New York 2052.

(Let's hope some of those mega projects actually get built.)

And your welcome for the pictures, the views from up there are simply stunning!!

Huh? More like New York 2015-2020, Those "mega projects" are all pretty certain to get built anyway

Onn · #**12037** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 4:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

Huh? More like New York 2015-2020, Those "mega projects" are all pretty certain to get built anyway

I know, but it looks too futuristic to be 2015 or 2020. Technology and ideas are moving so quickly today.

Kevin Scott Koepke · #**12038** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 4:53 AM**

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lower manhattan. by Kevin Scott Koepke Photography, on Flickr[/IMG]

STR · #**12039** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 8:18 AM**

The ESB is very rough ATM, but it's roughed out enough to compare the general structural arrangement. 70 years of design evolution...

Troubadour · #**12040** Posted **Jan 18, 2011, 9:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by STR

>>>>>>>>

At the far right of that render, I finally understand the design of 2 WTC - it's not at all a "sheared off" thing like the Libeskind model that supposedly inspired it. It's just that it's bowing to 1 WTC! I totally get it now. The bulky, business-y tower bows to the aspirational Freedom Tower! (This is how I choose to interpret it, so if anyone disagrees, including the architects,

)