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What makes you say that?
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What makes you say that?
The Toronto Maple Leafs are the biggest sports property in Canada in spite of a bunch of things that the Montreal Canadiens seemingly have in their favour such as near-total domination in Quebec (whereas there are a higher number of Habs fans all across Ontario, and it's 50-50 in some regions of Ontario, plus there are the Sens), and the fact that the Habs have been much more successful over the past 10, 20, 30 or 40 years.

This just speaks to the sheer size of the Toronto (and its hinterland) market.

You'd most certainly reproduce the same dynamic in baseball - actually it would be titled even more strongly in the Blue Jays' favour for a variety of reasons: market size, historic on field success, longevity, etc.
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Projet Montréal's vision for the Bonaventure site (one of the options included in the feasibility study)


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I love this proposal, but there is no nearby metro station, is there?
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Nope. Closest is Bonaventure at 1km. In the plans above, Projet Montréal had a tramway passing the stadium

But the new LRT on Champlain might cross near, if they get this project moving fast to coordinate...
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Projet Montréal's vision for the Bonaventure site (one of the options included in the feasibility study)
I really don't know about that particular location - stadiums look great on paper, but because of their sporadic use and large footprint, they basically condemn all of their immediate surroundings to be lifeless except for game or concert nights.
That's amplified by the fact that it's surrounded on all sides by either railroads, water or seemingly empty plazas: what reason would anyone have to be there at all other than to be going to or coming from a game?

It's precisely BECAUSE the space is surrounded by such inactive elements that that particular lot should aim for intense, all-day use: a tasteful mix restaurants, offices, insitutional uses, appartments, shops and bars (entre autre) would lay down the necessary 24-h activity foundations on which more infrequent uses can build (things like stadiums, concert halls, casinos and all that jazz). Ottawa's doing a good job of this with our new Lansdowne Stadium which is being built alongside a new, mixed-use district in near the centre of town and along the canal: it will be full for events, but it will also be full of people living, working and shopping there for the other 95% of time.



As much as I'd like something similar to be achieved in my future hometown (UdeM Urbanisme in September!), the limited amount of space and the huge footprint of a baseball stadium makes it pretty prohibitive. It might be worth weighing whether saving a few minutes getting to the stadium is worth depriving the Peel Bassin of activity, urbanity and interest.

So if it's a stadium you want, go ahead, but it's vital that there be that base of activity there. Otherwise, all you'll have is a sad, empty, underused piece of prime downtown waterfront and a wasted opportunity to define a district.
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^Great news. This could be a very emotional thing for baseball fans in Montreal. I can't wait!

Re the return of MLB to Montreal

I haven't researched this topic at all. Does MLB have any intention of expanding in the near future? I can't imagine and I've certainly not heard anything about it. How about franchise relocation? I'm sure that's something MLB would like to avoid, in spite of the debacle that continues in Florida.

And even if it did happen, what are the chances they'd be successful on the field? The Jays haven't even been close to making the playoffs over the past 20 years. How about the NHL? Winnipeg, for example, pushed hard to get their team back. Great. So now what? Again, what are the chances that team will ever have success on the ice? Most of the Canadian teams merely exist, rather than being perennial favourites to win something.

Oh well, I guess that's a different discussion. If you're a fan, you don't really care about winning or losing, right? Leafs' fans are the prime example of that.
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^Great news. This could be a very emotional thing for baseball fans in Montreal. I can't wait!

Re the return of MLB to Montreal

I haven't researched this topic at all. Does MLB have any intention of expanding in the near future? I can't imagine and I've certainly not heard anything about it. How about franchise relocation? I'm sure that's something MLB would like to avoid, in spite of the debacle that continues in Florida.

And even if it did happen, what are the chances they'd be successful on the field? The Jays haven't even been close to making the playoffs over the past 20 years. How about the NHL? Winnipeg, for example, pushed hard to get their team back. Great. So now what? Again, what are the chances that team will ever have success on the ice? Most of the Canadian teams merely exist, rather than being perennial favourites to win something.

Oh well, I guess that's a different discussion. If you're a fan, you don't really care about winning or losing, right? Leafs' fans are the prime example of that.
For the first time since Forbes began tracking NHL team values in 1998, three of the league’s five most valuable teams are Canadian.

it's all about $. even if you don't make the playoffs.
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Any word on what the weather is going to be like for the games? Olympic Stadium is at the mercy of the elements even more than outside stadiums is and I've heard that the snow issue might be a factor? I hope that's incorrect, because I really want to see Olympic filled with baseball fans again.
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Baseball: ambiance survoltée au Stade olympique

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Le président des Blue Jays, Paul Beeston, a été soufflé par la réponse des Montréalais, qui ont été 46 121 à franchir les tourniquets du Stade olympique pour le premier de deux matchs préparatoires que la formation torontoise livre aux Mets de New York à Montréal.

«Le moins que je puisse dire, c'est que c'est une très plaisante surprise, a dit Beeston à La Presse Canadienne, pendant un match finalement gagné 5-4 par les siens. Nous aurions été heureux d'avoir 25 000 personnes par match, très heureux de 35 000, mais là, je suis soufflé!»

«Quand on m'a parlé de ces matchs, je me suis dit que ce serait bien d'avoir 25 000 spectateurs pour chacun d'eux, a pour sa part indiqué le directeur général Alex Anthopoulos avant la rencontre. Mais plus de 40 000 (vendredi) et près de 50 000 (samedi), c'est au-delà de nos espérances.»

Beeston espère bien pouvoir répéter l'expérience dès l'an prochain.

«Il faudra que le Baseball majeur nous donne de nouveau son autorisation, mais comment voulez-vous ne pas avoir envie de revenir?»

Pour le président des Jays, il ne fait aucun doute: la réponse des Montréalais et des Québécois est un message clair au Baseball majeur.

«On ne peut plus clair. Et les Jays sont dans le coin de Montréal: il n'y a rien de mieux qui pourrait arriver aux Jays et au baseball au Canada que le baseball revienne à Montréal. Ce soir, je suis fier des Jays, je suis fier d'être Canadien et je suis fier pour cette ville.»

Tous ces gens n'ont pas mis de temps à mettre de l'ambiance. À plus de 90 minutes du premier lancer, avant même que les spectateurs ne puissent pénétrer dans l'enceinte du Stade olympique, l'ambiance était survoltée dans la Rotonde. Sous les cris de «On veut du baseball» et «Let's Go Expos!» scandés par la foule, les gens piaffaient d'impatience de gagner leur siège, le tout dans le calme et une bonne humeur contagieuse.

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Published Friday, Mar. 28 2014, 10:53 PM EDT
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MONTREAL — The throng of 46,121 at Olympic Stadium were rooting more for the defunct Montreal Expos, but they stood and cheered the Toronto Blue Jays just the same.

Pinch hitter Ricardo Nanita singled with two out in the ninth to lift the Blue Jays to a 5-4 victory over the New York Mets on a Friday night that was part exhibition baseball, part tribute to former Expos and Mets catcher Gary Carter and part appeal to the world to bring baseball back to Montreal.

It was the first game at the Big O since the Expos’ farewell game on Sept. 24, 2004, before they moved to Washington, D.C. to become the Nationals.

The teams will play again on Saturday afternoon, when the Expos’ 1994 team will be feted.

Carter’s widow Sandy and daughter Kimmy were on hand with his ex-teammates Tim Raines, Steve Rogers and Warren Cromartie for a pre-game tribute to perhaps the most popular player in Expos history. He also played for and won a World Series in 1986 with the Mets.

“The city always embraced Gary, and us as a family” Sandy Carter said afterwards. “I really felt that tonight. We made it our home and felt privileged to be here for 11 years.”

Carter died of brain cancer at age 57 in 2010. The City of Montreal named a street after him outside the Expos’ original home, Jarry Park.

“He was a great teammate, a great player, a great competitor,” said Raines, a roving outfield instructor for the Blue Jays. “Him and Andre Dawson taught me the meaning of playing the game.

“If I didn’t listen to him, Andre Dawson would slap me upside the head.”

Many other former players and management personnel were on hand to see the Blue Jays come back from a 4-2 deficit to tie the game in the seventh and win it in the ninth.

Fans chanted Let’s Go Expos throughout most of the game, but all were on their feet for the final inning trying to will the Blue Jays to victory.

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Retour du baseball: un week-end historique, selon evenko

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Quelques heures avant le deuxième et dernier duel entre les Blue Jays de Toronto et les Mets de New York au Stade olympique, le groupe evenko, promoteur et producteur de l'événement, a qualifié le week-end d'historique.

«Nous sommes extrêmement satisfaits de la réponse du public, a dit son porte-parole, Simon Arsenault. Les deux matchs (auxquels 96 350 personnes auront assisté - 46 121 vendredi et 50 229 samedi), se sont avérés un excellent rayonnement pour Montréal. Les spectateurs se sont déplacés de partout au Québec, de l'Ontario et des États-Unis.»

Du côté de la Régie des installations olympiques, son nouveau président-directeur général, Michel Labrecque, a souligné à quel point la première visite du Baseball majeur à Montréal en 10 ans a servi à démontrer l'utilité du Stade olympique.

«C'est une preuve de plus que le Stade olympique, avec plus de 50 000 sièges, demeure un amphithéâtre qui est capable de recevoir de grands événements sportifs. On accueille des événements culturels, des grands salons, etc., mais ça demeure un grand stade de sport.»

Le président des Blue Jays, Paul Beeston, a répété les propos qu'il avait tenus la veille à La Presse Canadienne en rappelant à quel point l'organisation était surprise des assistances et de l'appui que lui a manifesté le public montréalais.

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March 29, 2014, 6:06 PM

Congratulations to the city of Montreal and the nearly 100,000 fans that put on a two-day baseball party that anyone who was there won’t soon forget.

If the goal was to prove that the city still held a torch for baseball and the prospect of the return of the Montreal Expos, consider it mission accomplished. No one can question the passion on display for a pair of exhibition games between the Toronto Blue and the New York Mets.

The games were tight to the final out and with the ‘home’ team, the Blue Jays winning 5-4 and 2-0, respectively. More importantly, the crowds were massive, loud and heartfelt.

And the right people took notice.

"My mandate was to come here and assess for [MLB commissioner Bud Selig] the state of the avidity for major league baseball to see how the facility looked, how the games were staged and the general enthusiasm for baseball [in Montreal]," MLB executive vice president John McHale Jr. said.

"And I’m going to tell him that things were better than even I expected. I was very, very favourably impressed."

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Congratulations, Montreal! Great crowd. Great fans. Great baseball.

Now what do we do? Make it an annual event? No idea but it's invaluable that MLB has seen/ been reminded that Montreal is a legitimate MLB market, in spite of the debacle that was the last decade of Expos' baseball.
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Minneapolis is often used as an example of a northern city that manages without a dome; it's not always pretty, though. Here's the kind of situation Montreal would have to deal with if they had an open-air stadium.
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''The fans love it, apparently. They're not as whiny as people in Toronto are about the cold.''
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''The fans love it, apparently. They're not as whiny as people in Toronto are about the cold.''
Is that why less then 20,000 people showed up for the three games despite selling over 70,000 tickets?
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