EDMONTON | Manulife 2 | 161M | 32 FLOORS - Page 4

rapid_business · #61 Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 6:01 PM**

ATCO, really? I didn't know they were looking for space? City -> I doubt it. Too pricey.

Coldrsx · #62 Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 7:05 PM**

^yeah, cannot see them there either, but they do need space I hear.

160.4m tall will make it our new tallest!

Calgarian · #63 Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 7:21 PM**

Looks great! glad to see some movement on this one finally.

Chadillaccc · #64 Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 7:31 PM**

So awesome! This will really transform Edmonton's skyline. It will be noticeably taller than anything else and it will add an ultra-modern node to the skyline that, in my opinion, could lift it to the next level aesthetically.

Coldrsx · #65 Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 9:37 PM**

^yup, objectively I think it will be a top 5 in the country.

Deepstar · #66 Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 10:20 PM**

I think you could already say top 5 even without this one.

Coldrsx · #67 Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 10:33 PM**

^no no... this tower being a top 5 tower in the country.

Chadillaccc · #68 Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 11:44 PM**

It will depend on the cladding but it does have that potential I suppose. Its height will be a detriment though, as by the time this is completed (let's say 2018-19), the national top 10 will all be over 235 meters.

Coldrsx · #69 Posted **Nov 30, 2013, 2:02 AM**

^^we don't have a compensation issue

ue · #70 Posted **Nov 30, 2013, 5:03 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

It will depend on the cladding but it does have that potential I suppose. Its height will be a detriment though, as by the time this is completed (let's say 2018-19), the national top 10 will all be over 235 meters.

Height isn't everything

. In terms of design, I think Cold is right. This is up there with the Bow or L Tower for new towers in Canada.

Chadillaccc · #71 Posted **Nov 30, 2013, 5:33 AM**

It could be, remember, cladding is everything. Since this is an office though, I'm really hopeful.

Also, I would imagine height does matter to most people on this forum. Also, I'm not sure what a "compensation issue" is.

ue · #72 Posted **Nov 30, 2013, 7:30 AM**

^ Height is just one factor. It's why people would rather go to Paris than Dubai. Many of the most applauded urban neighbourhoods are specifically more human scaled - The Pearl District, Le Plateau, Greenwich Village, the North End, Lincoln Park, Haight-Ashbury, Mayfair, Prenzlauer Berg, Montmartre, St. Kilda, Bo-Kaap, etc. While nice, tall buildings are just that, I think it's more important to have an inviting realm for when you're actually in the city, at street level.

The compensation issue thing, from what I could surmise, is Cold's tongue-in-cheek response to the obsession many have over skyscraper height. That being said, we don't mind a good skyscraper and we'd more than gladly take back the title of having Alberta's tallest from you guys

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Coldrsx · #73 Posted **Jul 28, 2014, 6:59 PM**

Good god please yes.

102 Street Centre
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Hines is the development manager for 102 Street Centre, located in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. The 25-story office building was conceived to inspire and elevate Edmonton’s business and thought leaders today and in the future.

As the city’s tallest building, its elegant glass façade and bold architectural composition will reshape and redefine Edmonton’s business landscape. Designed by Pickard Chilton and owned by AIMco, 102 Street Centre will be distinguished by its environmental and corporate leadership. The tower will become a landmark in the city’s skyline and provide more than 800,000 square feet of commercial space for Edmonton’s growing downtown community.

(http://www.hines.com/toolkit_images/...w_lres_web.jpg)

(http://www.hines.com/toolkit_images/...c_lres_web.jpg)

(http://www.hines.com/toolkit_images/...1_lres_web.jpg)

http://www.hines.com/property/detail.aspx?id=2344

TallBob · #74 Posted **Jul 29, 2014, 5:37 AM**

Nice renders. I thought Manulife II was around 30+ floors!

rapid_business · #75 Posted **Jul 29, 2014, 2:23 PM**

It is. Hines is wrong.

Coldrsx · #76 Posted **Jul 29, 2014, 3:24 PM**

After closer examination, I count the following:

4 storey podium
29 typical office floors
1 light blue mystery floor, skydeck?
3.5 mechanical I presume? Or one amazing atrium.

36 ish storeys

DarthMalgus · #77 Posted **Jul 29, 2014, 8:51 PM**

Looks fantastic. Sounds like lots of pent-up demand in Edmonton so I imagine this one is likely to proceed fairly quickly?

Coldrsx · #78 Posted **Jul 29, 2014, 10:22 PM**

All depends on the market and a rumoured potential RFP.

ue · #79 Posted **Jul 29, 2014, 11:07 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthMalgus

Looks fantastic. Sounds like lots of pent-up demand in Edmonton so I imagine this one is likely to proceed fairly quickly?

Unfortunately, unlike Calgary, there aren't endless amounts of corporations based up here looking to build a new showpiece. There were three contenders for the 102 St Centre (Manulife II) - the City, Stantec, and Enbridge. Both the City and Stantec have opted to go for the two office towers to be included in the Arena District underway already. So only Enbridge is left for companies looking to lease a brand new office tower and if they chose someone else, then 102 St Centre will likely be put on hold for awhile.

DarthMalgus · #80 Posted **Jul 31, 2014, 6:56 PM**

Well, hopefully they find an anchor tenant soon and get going.