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Old Posted Oct 29, 2014, 10:23 PM
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They started its podium a year ago. Just took forever to do the podium. The tower portion started rising from the podium roof at least a month ago.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2014, 5:44 AM
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Then you know that mixed-use isn't easy, and tends to be expensive. And therefore it's a route a lot of developers would skip since they have easier options elsewhere.
It looks like Selig is going the mixed use route:



Here's what Martin Selig's latest Seattle high-rise could look like

http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/b...high-rise.html
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2014, 7:11 AM
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Not bad. A good filler for the area.

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Mixed-Use Complex Bringing The 'Minnie' Back to 1st & Denny
This I like. The flatiron effect on that low rise. When implemented correctly, it can really spice up an area.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2014, 7:21 AM
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Clise's 40-Story Denny Triangle Tower Goes Round & Round

Tuesday, October 28, 2014, by Sean Keeley



http://seattle.curbed.com/archives/2...ound-round.php
Is this tower 440 feet by any chance? Want to update a thread over at YIMBY and am not sure of the height. I'm assuming its going right up to the height limit for the area?
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2014, 3:31 PM
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Yes, I know that mixed use happens. It's generally Downtown sites where residential can go taller than commercial uses. (The height limits are different, and residential doesn't count toward FAR.)

Lowrises and locations where high rents aren't justified are another story.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2014, 9:57 PM
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Is this tower 440 feet by any chance? Want to update a thread over at YIMBY and am not sure of the height. I'm assuming its going right up to the height limit for the area?
I don't know. Its probably close. Here's the latest list of proposed bldgs and heights for Seattle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ngs_in_Seattle

Unfortunately, Clise's tower hasn't made the list yet.
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Another view of Selig's latest proposed project:

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Old Posted Nov 5, 2014, 4:43 PM
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The Rainier Tower received a height and floor increase. Its now:

SEATTLE | Rainier Square Redevelopment | 850 FT | 58 FLOORS

Going from 800 to 850 feet and its now 58 floors.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2014, 5:35 PM
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Rainier Square redo will put apartments high in the sky

The developer behind Seattle’s second-tallest skyscraper proposes to add more floors for luxury apartments that would be the highest in the city.

By Sanjay Bhatt

Seattle Times business reporter

Seattle-based Wright Runstad has enlarged its planned tower on the site of the current Rainier Square shopping mall, adding eight more stories for large, pricey apartments. Those apartments could be convenient for well-paid workers in the tower’s 35 floors of offices.

The firm revealed the changes in its recent application for a master permit for two downtown buildings — a 58-story tower and 12-story hotel — that would open in phases from late 2017 to mid-2019. The $600 million project, which would start with demolition of the Rainier Square mall, could break ground late next year.

The site is in the central business district between Fourth and Fifth avenues and Union and University streets, bordering the retail core and near arts institutions like The 5th Avenue Theatre and Benaroya Hall.

“What we aspire to is to have the project really capture that locational energy,” said Wright Runstad CEO Greg Johnson.

Rainier Square is part of the University of Washington’s roughly 10-acre Metropolitan Tract in the heart of downtown. Three Seattle pioneer families donated the land in 1861 as the university’s original location.

UW’s Board of Regents picked Wright Runstad in May to redevelop Rainier Square and manage Rainier Tower, the adjacent white-pedestal office building that will remain. The developer has deposited $2.5 million with the UW while it seeks the master permit and works on securing an anchor tenant and hotel operator.

Its latest proposal raises the tower’s height from 800 feet to 850 feet, offering 790,000 square feet of office and about 180 apartments that fill floors 40 to 58.

The developer added more floors to the tower for apartments but also bumped up the average size per unit to over 1,000 square feet. The average monthly rent will be about $4,000, Johnson said.

Wright Runstad expects Rainier Square’s apartments will be the only offering in the city with units so high above street level. Most Seattle apartments and condos top out at about the 40th floor, Johnson said.

For example, GID Development Group’s 2030 8th Avenue building, a 355-unit luxury-apartment tower under construction in Denny Triangle, is 41 stories. Holland Partner Group’s Premiere on Pine at 815 Pine Street tops out at 440 feet. And Path America is building a 41-story hotel-and-apartment tower in Belltown.

None of the Rainier Square tower’s apartments will have balconies. But there will be amenities for residents on the 38th and 39th floors, including a fitness center, wine storage and a theater.

“This is the area where you’ll be able to open up sections of the facade and have your outdoor experience for the apartment dwellers,” Johnson said.

If demolition of Rainier Square mall begins in the fourth quarter of next year, the developer expects to have the lower floors of the 58-story tower ready for office tenants by late 2017, and the upper office floors in early 2018. The apartments would be ready for occupancy between mid-2018 and mid-2019, Johnson said.

The lower office floors are as big as 34,000 square feet. As the tower rises and tapers, the smallest office floors would be about 15,000 square feet, Johnson said. As a result, more tenants couldhave their own floors, depending on their needs, and not have to share space with other tenants.

As Seattle’s second-tallest skyscraper, behind Columbia Center, Rainier Tower will be easily visible on the horizon. Wright Runstad proposes to add texture to the exterior for visual effect — randomly distributed folded metal panels protruding about 12 inches from the facade.

“It’ll be a prominent building, and we wanted it to not just glow at night but sparkle at other times of the day,” Johnson said.

Members of the city’s design review board have criticized the proposed tower’s flat roof, saying Seattle towers over 40 floors all feature sculpted shafts or tops with interesting shapes.

Harry Murphy, an observer, said in an email to the city that he imagined “an eye-catching top” like the angled roof of the Citigroup building in New York City.

Meanwhile, the luxury hotel has been reconfigured to avoid blocking views of Rainier Tower’s pedestal from University and Fourth. Designers have shifted the structure closer to the office tower and lowered it from 15 to 12 floors, reducing capacity from 200 rooms to 150 rooms.

The developer expects to open the hotel in late 2017.

Wright Runstad is in the process of selecting an operator for the hotel. Its brand will compete with the Four Seasons, Johnson said.

The redeveloped site will also have a total 30,000 square feet of retail in the tower and hotel.

Once Wright Runstad obtains its permit and financing, the developer’s two 80-year ground leases — one on the future tower site, the other on the hotel site — would begin. At the end of the 80-year period, the UW would become the owner of the tower and hotel.

A similar process played out Friday, when the UW’s long-term ground lease with Seattle-based Unico Properties expired. As a result, the UW wholly owns the seven buildings Unico developed and managed over the past 60 years. The UW picked Unico to continue managing and leasing the five buildings aside from Rainier Tower and Rainier Square.

“We have prepared for a long time for the momentous transition of one of the most unique and historical parcels of land in the Western United States,” said Todd Timberlake, the UW’s chief real-estate officer, in a news release. “Together, we’re laying the groundwork for a metamorphosis of the downtown Seattle Central Business District.”

http://seattletimes.com/html/busines...squarexml.html
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2014, 7:27 PM
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It's inching toward a more interesting direction, "up". Will be nice to have something fill the height gap between the 700 and 900 buildings. The top still needs work.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2014, 8:48 PM
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Ugh no. The top is exactly they way it should be. Step back and consider the whole block. The Rainier tower is world famous for its base and the way the tower flows upward to its square top. The new tower needs to reflect and enhance those key architectural aspects. A silly sloped top or some other shape would detract from the original tower and make them compete. They are made to work in tandem and have the same eye catching curves and graceful shapes. They only way to get the top a different shape is to wipe out the whole block and start over. The city would go insane if you thought of taking down the Rainier Tower. Never gonna happen.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2014, 8:57 PM
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I'm thinking more in terms of the name "Rainier" which, while not as old as "Tahoma" the name that local people gave to the mountain long ago. The settler name still predates the original tower and the mountain is not a flat-top.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2014, 9:08 PM
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Ok, I'm not going to try and follow that train of logic, but if words and shapes mean that much why do we call the Space Needle that? It looks like neither space or a needle. Discuss.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2014, 9:19 PM
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It looks like a space ship-needle.

I don't think it needs to have a sloped top, it just needs a little more articulation.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2014, 10:20 PM
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Hello Seattle! I just wanted to write a quick post about your city. I visited for the first time last week and I must say, I was very impressed overall---especially with the amount of highrise construction. Being from Houston, I thought no other city had the flurry of activity that we had. I was clearly wrong. You guys make what we're doing look cute. If you'd like, here is my full take on your city from a new comers prospective. Way to go, Seattle!!

http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/h...e/#entry482568
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2014, 1:06 AM
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Thanks for the review and heads-up! You might have let us off lightly on the density, forgiving our large areas of single-family homes. Thankfully some of the notable gaps in downtown are being filled.

You did notice how absent midrises and highrises are in the neighborhoods. Hopefully that will change.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2014, 12:22 AM
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Walton Lofts in Belltown tops off
http://www.djc.com/news/co/12071660.html
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2014, 3:36 PM
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Hello Seattle! I just wanted to write a quick post about your city. I visited for the first time last week and I must say, I was very impressed overall---especially with the amount of highrise construction. Being from Houston, I thought no other city had the flurry of activity that we had. I was clearly wrong. You guys make what we're doing look cute. If you'd like, here is my full take on your city from a new comers prospective. Way to go, Seattle!!

http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/h...e/#entry482568
Interesting take. There is no doubt Seattle is going through an incredible boom (may be the largest ever), but I would say a lot of the construction downtown is not all high rise construction. I would say there are 15-20 buildings under construction in the greater downtown that are over 12 stories, the remainder of construction is projects are in the to 6-12 story range. There are a very large number of high rise proposals though and if the majority do get built will make a huge impact on the skyline and the feel of the city!

Also, you mentioned that Seattle seemed small for a city of 3.6 million. That is the metropolitan area of Seattle. That includes cities like Tacoma and Everett which are about 30 miles away in each direction.

In regards to the comments about Vancouver and Seattle being Vancouver lite. This is pretty accurate. Seattle is much more business oriented, and has more commercial buildings in the downtown area and in areas like Bellevue or Redmond. Vancouver though is on a different level when it comes to city planning. Their downtown peninsula I would guess has at LEAST 4 times as many residential high rises as Seattle and way more residents. I feel the city is much more vibrant and smarter about their lay out of retail districts (Robson street and Granville) and parks that blend in perfectly for the large # of downtown residents. The city overall is just much more urban and better planned out than Seattle at this point. Vancouver also has a large amount of residential high rises throughout the region and as you mentioned the Seattle region really does not have high rises scattered throughout the area other than Bellevue. Seattle is doing very well and better than most American cities, but Seattle has a ways to go to catch up to Vancouver IMO.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2014, 5:19 PM
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In 2010, Downtown Seattle was around 20,000 residents per square mile, without much change whether you used a larger set of boundaries or a smaller one. Projects that are already done or underway should get that close to 25,000 per square mile. Vancouver must be around 50,000 per square mile by now (if I recall) for the Downtown Peninsula (basically) not including Stanley Park, with the number dropping a bit if you go further east or across False Creek.

So we're way behind that. But our US peer cities are way behind Seattle. Denver, Portland, Minneapolis, and San Diego were all about half our downtown residential density last I looked.
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IMO, being "better than" (in Seattle's case, better than other peer US cities) is less commendable than is "being where you could/should be". Never the less, I'm glad that Seattle is adding residential density in the core.
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