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Old Posted Mar 14, 2019, 5:28 PM
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I love that they saved that beautiful historic building and are incorporating it into this tower. We need to see more of that.
It's fairly common for older structures to be integrated or renovated as a part of a larger development project. Sometimes to such a degree that it borders obnoxious.

Regardless, the fact that this historic structure (and others) will be reactivated and put to better use is even more beneficial IMO.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2019, 7:05 PM
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It never happens here in Pittsburgh, they just tear it down and replace it with garbage. I see it all the time in more progressive cities though.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2019, 7:20 PM
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I love that they saved that beautiful historic building and are incorporating it into this tower. We need to see more of that.
Copying what was done across the street at the St. Regis Hotel.


https://www.instantstreetview.com/@3....88h,28.03p,1z

They probably had no choice. I'm sure the older building, whose name escapes me at the moment, is landmarked and in SF that makes it sacrosanct.

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Old Posted Mar 14, 2019, 7:28 PM
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It's fairly common for older structures to be integrated or renovated as a part of a larger development project. Sometimes to such a degree that it borders obnoxious.

Regardless, the fact that this historic structure (and others) will be reactivated and put to better use is even more beneficial IMO.
My personal favorite example of adaptive re-use in SF is the old bank building incorporated into the pediment of Citicorp Center:


https://www.instantstreetview.com/@3....56h,25.39p,1z
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2019, 8:16 PM
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John King wrote a piece about facadism in SF back in 2016.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...in-7306790.php

     
     
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2019, 9:46 PM
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I too am a fan of facadism, provided the facade is worthy, or at least preserves the look of a block with similar facades. Wish they would have started doing it sooner; may have led to better preserved blocks instead of the haphazard mix of old and new. Though that can also work.

Is 345 California Center considered an example of this? I like the way it rises from the middle of the block, preserving the much older-looking buildings on the perimeter.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2019, 5:16 AM
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345 California was built in the middle of the block with partial demolitions to open entryways. There is no façadism there.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2019, 5:19 AM
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My personal favorite example of adaptive re-use in SF is the old bank building incorporated into the pediment of Citicorp Center:


https://www.instantstreetview.com/@3....56h,25.39p,1z
I think this is one of the worst examples in San Francisco, as do many others. One-third of the facade was cut off and a gorgeous banking hall with a large oval dome was destroyed. The beautiful building behind it was completely demolished, all for a tower that could have been built elsewhere.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2019, 9:57 PM
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Fast? Seems like nothing much has been done in a while.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2019, 12:45 AM
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Fast? Seems like nothing much has been done in a while.
Three floors in two weeks is a really good pace. This has already reached 1/4 of its maximum height, and will top off this year. Not bad considering its been a hole in the ground for two years.
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It's gonna be so nice not to have to look at the ugly backside of that hotel (is it a Sheraton these days?--once it was an ANA) from Yerba Buena park. If I remember correctly, even Herb Caen hated it.
     
     
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It's gonna be so nice not to have to look at the ugly backside of that hotel (is it a Sheraton these days?--once it was an ANA) from Yerba Buena park. If I remember correctly, even Herb Caen hated it.
It’s now The Park Central hotel, affiliated with Marriott. That ugly building has been through a series of names, starting out as Le Meridien. Before this iteration, it was the Westin Market Street, although it’s not on Market. Some people called it The Anal when it was the ANA.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2019, 3:10 PM
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I think it was called the Argent at some point as well. It does look rather... jail like.

It looks a little more palatable when viewed from 3rd St:
https://goo.gl/maps/L13R3iGuf5D2
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2019, 5:44 AM
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[QUOTE=homebucket;8527220] It does look rather... jail like.

Agreed! It always reminded me of the Santa Clara Co jail in SJ. Nice that it'll be covered by very attractive Mex Museum Tower.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2019, 6:26 PM
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They actually started curtainwall installation, but I was in a Lyft and couldn't take any photos. Maybe later today I will walk the two blocks to take a picture. It looks good though.

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Old Posted May 3, 2019, 5:51 AM
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New renderings:





New Website:
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New article:
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....and another place I can't afford.
     
     
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Old Posted May 3, 2019, 11:32 PM
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They actually started curtainwall installation, but I was in a Lyft and couldn't take any photos.
I wasn't and did. The first bit of curtain wall:



It also appears they've cleaned the facade of the Aronson Building and it looks very nice:


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Old Posted May 6, 2019, 2:52 PM
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Hard to get a good sense of the aesthetic from the new renderings, but I think I like them. If developer truly wants a “Park Avenue-type of residential building” as Rescalvo claims, they should really just hire Stern and erect a limestone tower. I think it'd be a great addition to the SF skyline.
     
     
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