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Old Posted Nov 27, 2020, 6:17 PM
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Brought over this cam from 300 Main thread. The hotel is gone.
The hotel is not gone. All you can see on the webcam is the parking lot to the south of the hotel that's being used by the demo crew.

Here are a couple of photos that I took this morning. So far one wing has been removed from the back.


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Old Posted Nov 28, 2020, 2:09 AM
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Oh right. Maybe it was the lighting. Thanks for the update.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2020, 3:47 AM
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Does anyone have a pic of the original facade?
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2020, 5:45 PM
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You can see photos from all the different iterations here. While it was definitely a bit nicer at certain points, it was never really a showstopper. Even its original design looks somewhat bland and apartment-like, aside from a decorative awning similar to the Marlborough.

Pretty much any semblance of its heritage was gone by the 70s, aside from the Oak Room, which now makes up the interior of Patent 5 on Alexander.

Sometime early in its life:


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Old Posted Nov 28, 2020, 6:50 PM
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The third iteration truly makes me gag
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2020, 7:26 PM
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The third iteration truly makes me gag
Ya it's a shame what people did in the name of "modernizing" buildings.

I've always wished Winnipeg chose to build a newer downtown next to the core of the Exchange district, so we'd have an 'old city' next to a newer downtown that had a more dense cluster of modern buildings (mainly in the area around York and St. Mary). Unfortunately the importance of the P&M corner caused the big companies to want to build their high-rises right in the middle of what would have been the centre of this old city, add in the 60s civic buildings, and the rest is history.

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Ya it's a shame what people did in the name of "modernizing" buildings.

I've always wished Winnipeg chose to build a newer downtown next to the core of the Exchange district, so we'd have an 'old city' next to a newer downtown that had a more dense cluster of modern buildings (mainly in the area around York and St. Mary). Unfortunately the importance of the P&M corner caused the big companies to want to build their high-rises right in the middle of what would have been the centre of this old city, and the rest is history.
Look at the bright side. We still have the Exchange District. Thankfully we did not raze our historic buildings like Edmonton and Calgary did.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2020, 10:56 PM
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^ Yeah, to some extent Winnipeg did gradually move from an 'old downtown' north and east of Portage and Main to a 'new downtown' south and west of Portage and Main. That allowed parts of the Exchange District to remain intact as opposed to regenerating in situ and losing the old generation of buildings.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2020, 2:40 AM
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Centre Venture did not lose money selling it to Fortress.
The City told CV to purchase the property to alleviate significant crime issues it was having. We can definitely debate the logic of that move but it was not a choice CV had. It was not intended to be a profitable solution, but something for the greater good of downtown to attract investment in the area. The Fortress transaction, like all CV deals, came with a development agreement, deadlines and penalties to cover any costs if they failed. There was always a high level of skepticism but there were few options and they offered a high reward if they could make it work. A framework was put in place to protect against losing money.

The agreement with this developer comes with a similar agreement. CV is doing its best to make the most of a difficult situation. Maybe they should have told the city they wouldn’t buy it, but at the time the city saw that as an important step for downtown.
"Another project milestone Mathieson is able to report is completion of the removal of hazardous materials from the former St. Regis Hotel on Portage Avenue.

CentreVenture was obligated to take back the property from Ontario company Fortress Real Developments of Richmond failed to follow through on a plan to build a parkade and commercial complex on the site.

St. Regis Hotel site is up for grabs once more

At one point CentreVenture hoped to sell the building as it stood, for redevelopment, but is now marketing the property as a clean site and demolition of the old hotel will begin soon.

As a partial reflection of uncertainty of the value of the downtown property, CentreVenture has written down a loss totalling $1.535 million off its books for the St. Regis."

You are a volunteer at Centre Venture and you do not have a clue. Angela admitted to a huge loss. And that did not include interest, property taxes and utilities.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2020, 5:52 PM
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"Another project milestone Mathieson is able to report is completion of the removal of hazardous materials from the former St. Regis Hotel on Portage Avenue.

CentreVenture was obligated to take back the property from Ontario company Fortress Real Developments of Richmond failed to follow through on a plan to build a parkade and commercial complex on the site.

St. Regis Hotel site is up for grabs once more

At one point CentreVenture hoped to sell the building as it stood, for redevelopment, but is now marketing the property as a clean site and demolition of the old hotel will begin soon.

As a partial reflection of uncertainty of the value of the downtown property, CentreVenture has written down a loss totalling $1.535 million off its books for the St. Regis."

You are a volunteer at Centre Venture and you do not have a clue. Angela admitted to a huge loss. And that did not include interest, property taxes and utilities.
I think it's you without a clue. As mentioned earlier, CV loses money on some projects and makes money on others – that's the whole point. It helps spur projects that revitalize land, increasing property values and property taxes to the city. It doesn't "lose" money – it invests it to better the city.

Also, CV does not pay property taxes – it IS the city.
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I think it's you without a clue. As mentioned earlier, CV loses money on some projects and makes money on others – that's the whole point. It helps spur projects that revitalize land, increasing property values and property taxes to the city. It doesn't "lose" money – it invests it to better the city.

Also, CV does not pay property taxes – it IS the city.
Bingo
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2020, 11:44 AM
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So gross. Knowing what happened, seeing this. Playing like he’s the victim... Assholes really do finish first.
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2020, 4:22 PM
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The endless quest for a grocery store continues.
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The endless quest for a grocery store continues.
Don’t know why any of the large Canadian grocers doesn’t set up some Aldi or Lidl style stores before Aldi comes up here themselves. Aldi has made huge inroads in the US with three locations in Fargo now and a couple thousand locations across the US!
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So gross. Knowing what happened, seeing this. Playing like he’s the victim... Assholes really do finish first.
The realtor is a nice guy and has done very well in commercial real estate in a short period of time. I hope everything they say is true and the project moves forward for the benefit of the city.
Hopefully he has picked the right people to be associated with and this doesn’t backfire.

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So do we know what will go up where the Stregis was?
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2020, 8:28 PM
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Commercial, retail, residential, parking, kitchen sink.
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Commercial, retail, residential, parking, kitchen sink.
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