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Old Posted Oct 28, 2020, 7:17 AM
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$5.7M land deal moves SEPTA’s trolley modernization project forward

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The trolley routes being upgraded to proper light rail is one of my favorite transit projects in the US. This will be a huge benefit to West and Southwest Philadelphians
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2020, 6:59 PM
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Ouch... this is not looking good. SEPTA needs immediate aid here...

RUNNING OUT OF TRACK

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SEPTA, losing $1M in revenue a day, faces uncertain financial future. SEPTA's operating budget is facing a $350 million shortfall as a result of Covid-19, and even CARES Act funding may not be enough to keep the transit system from cutting lines, closing stations or raising fares.
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2020, 5:22 AM
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^^^ Hopefully Biden taking office will result in a significantly increased push for mass transit funding, as he has been famous for his rail support. We will have to wait and see until after Inauguration Day on January 20th.
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^ if so it will be seperate from a covid stimulus as he is looking for compromise there. i read that somewhere while doomscrolling.
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Goodlord look at all those ridiculous straddle bents...god I hate aerials. How cool would this be if they could just tunnel the whole thing starting before it crosses the Turnpike. You would think you could almost do a cut and cover (or at least a trench) for most of the chain motel shopping center parking lot suburban hell this thing would be going through.
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SEPTA Redesigning Bus Network

Philly has hired a San Fran firm to redesign the bus network:
https://whyy.org/articles/septa-sele...n-bus-network/
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PATCO still on track to reopen Franklin Square Station despite pandemic hit

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KOP Rail Project Gets $360K Federal Lifeline For 5 New Stations

Not much, but progress nonetheless. Read/view more here:
https://patch.com/pennsylvania/norri...e5wGIJVhBb_uQE
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2021, 9:06 PM
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yay, I guess. It's kind of hard for me to like this project. I get that KOP is in dire need of some better transit options, but the cost for this seems kind of crazy. Also, it's annoying that it bypasses town center. I suppose KOP will continue to get denser, but as it is now it seems like a billion dollars to the mall and casino. I suppose some office workers will use it, but seems like a desolate walk past highways, parking lots and not much else to the business parks around there, or I guess you could do the half hour walk to town center from the proposed mall blvd. station. Last time I drove through there weren't very many sidewalks and the traffic was nuts. If KOP became a walkable mini-city, then great, and maybe that's the plan but a lot will need to change. I'd much rather see an extension of regional rail to Phoenixville and beyond first though. And maybe we shouldn't go out of our way to make it easier to get to office parks. Maybe we want to push some of these businesses to want to move to Norristown or Conshy instead, dense walkable towns with transit already in place right next to KOP.

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Septa and the City of Philly is truly incompetent we literally have a tunnel already under the city from noble/broad to the parkway/30th.

This is a subway ready to be utilized and connect so much more of the city. if they use this for anything other then trolley or subway its a big mistake even the bus line with the trail is good.

https://www.dvrpc.org/Products/14020/

Paging McGrath what do you think of this?
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Trolley Modernization says hello

The final environmental impact statement for the King of Prussia Rail project was released recently. I feel obliged to point out that by 2040 this approximately $ 2,000,000,000 project is projected to have 6,755 daily riders.

SEPTA had previously reported estimates of 9,500 daily riders for the project.

Presumably when at last constructed it will have cost the gross domestic product of one of the more successful African countries and be ridden solely by the emotional support dog purchased by the Authority to keep the drivers from succumbing to suicidal depression out of loneliness.
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another article about the troubles ahead of SEPTA:
https://www.inquirer.com/transportat...-20210126.html

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The way forward is to blur the line between Regional Rail and SEPTA’s buses, trolleys, and subways, said Megan Smirti Ryerson, associate dean for research at the University of Pennsylvania Stuart Weitzman School of Design.
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More frequent trains, flat fares, and convenient connections between Regional Rail and city transit are among the ideas that the experts say could get SEPTA to a more equitable system.
Seems like a good idea to me. some of the existing lines terminate within or right outside the city (both Chestnut hill lines, Fox Chase, Bala, Airport). Those at the very least should see increase service, elevated platforms and integrated fares with the rest of the system. Any other station in city limits should also have integrated fare structure at the very least.

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But the recommendations aren’t that simple to adopt, said Scott Sauer, assistant general manager of operations.

“There certainly has to be an evolution of Regional Rail and how we use it,” he said. “But again, I can’t stress enough how significant a capital investment that would be.”
If only there was a multi-billion dollar project on the board that may not be a good idea post-pandemic.
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Septa and the City of Philly is truly incompetent we literally have a tunnel already under the city from noble/broad to the parkway/30th.

This is a subway ready to be utilized and connect so much more of the city. if they use this for anything other then trolley or subway its a big mistake even the bus line with the trail is good.

https://www.dvrpc.org/Products/14020/

Paging McGrath what do you think of this?
I will always wholeheartedly support any direct rail connection to the Art Museum.

The City Branch is a great resource that we should be using.
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I will always wholeheartedly support any direct rail connection to the Art Museum.

The City Branch is a great resource that we should be using.
The City Branch seems like a good idea but I'd also love to see a subway from Penn's Landing to the Philadelphia via Arch St, the Parkway, and Kelly Dr. Plus it seems like they're building on the City Branch with newer developments (high line park and condos). Building a subway along Arch St and the Parkway would be a better idea since it's inside Center City as opposed to the City Branch, IMHO.
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Septa and the City of Philly is truly incompetent we literally have a tunnel already under the city from noble/broad to the parkway/30th.

This is a subway ready to be utilized and connect so much more of the city. if they use this for anything other then trolley or subway its a big mistake even the bus line with the trail is good.

https://www.dvrpc.org/Products/14020/

Paging McGrath what do you think of this?
I do believe somebody's straight up ignoring the OG of that proposal.
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Old Posted Feb 16, 2021, 12:37 AM
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WOAH

Just found this great website

https://www.thetransportpolitic.com/....8963/-75.1777
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interesting map. I think it's missing a few proposals though, like the RR extension from Norristown to Phoenixville or Reading:
https://www.readingeagle.com/news/lo...b7e161556.html

It makes so much more sense to me than the $2B NHSL extension to KOP and would provide a lot more relief to traffic on 422. I think there's also a proposed SEPTA RR extension to Coatesville and Quakertown. Plus I think Allentown is looking into some sort of regional service that might tie into NJ transit for service to NYC.
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The City Branch seems like a good idea but I'd also love to see a subway from Penn's Landing to the Philadelphia via Arch St, the Parkway, and Kelly Dr. Plus it seems like they're building on the City Branch with newer developments (high line park and condos). Building a subway along Arch St and the Parkway would be a better idea since it's inside Center City as opposed to the City Branch, IMHO.
There was a subway tunnel begun in anticipation of an Arch Street line, with sections dug between 10th-11th and between 12th-13th Streets. The tunnel sections are still largely in tact. so to connect the Arch Street tunnel with the City Branch seems already halfway done.
https://hiddencityphila.org/2018/04/...t-subway-line/
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Another interesting website with great pictures and facts about the MFL

https://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/SEPTA...kford_Elevated



MFL 1922
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Another interesting website with great pictures and facts about the MFL

https://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/SEPTA...kford_Elevated



MFL 1922
from that site, they threw in this little nugget at the end of the introduction:
"There are plans for extensions and new lines, including an extension to the Northeast. Another idea calls for extending west of 69th Street to the Philadelphia suburb of Broomall."
wut?
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