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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 12:26 AM
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Any rumors to who will operate the hotel? Wondering if Shangri-la could put their first US hotel in there. I'm staying at the one in Toronto soon - hopefully good!
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 12:53 AM
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"unlit"..That's a real bummer as the backlit blow through floors of 432 Park in NY make the building much more redeemable.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 12:57 AM
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 1:43 AM
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 2:45 AM
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 5:10 PM
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How does the one of the "best firms" in Chicago design something like that?
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 5:34 PM
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^ Are we sure that those black panels aren't place holders or the glass place holders for more black panels?...I cant honestly believe they would go halfway with black panels or glass (whichever its supposed to be) intentionally?
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 5:56 PM
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If only that much of the floor is mechanical, why would they make the entire floor vents? I don't see the issue you are all having...
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 6:07 PM
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because it looks sloppy, unfinished, non-symmetrical, and awkward

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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 6:16 PM
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It appears where the skip hoist is will be glass.

So it should be symmetrical and might not look that bad when complete. I'm an optimist.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 6:39 PM
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I am a huge fan of the very talented and hard working group of people at Studio Gang and bKL for that matter, but thus far, the solution and placement of the louvers and the general concept for the blow through floor appears pretty difficult to defend formally.

I would really be curious to hear an explanation from the design team. In my opinion, most architects with deeper experience in tall tower design would have killed or substantially changed the design/concept of the building after it (presumably) failed in wind tunnel tests repeatedly (therefor requiring the blow through floor).

I hope what we are seeing will be improved somehow and that this project does not become the poster child example of why the 'it's all about the big idea and damn the details' approach to architecture should not be used when designing tall buildings.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 7:42 PM
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Nothing "failed" (or even came close) to wind tunnel testing. The blow through floor was added to reduce sway to help appease top caliber buyers with making the building as comfortable as possible. If you refer to 432 Park and 111 W 57th in NYC both buildings added blow through floors when construction was almost complete for this very reason. Not uncommon at all.

It would be like adjusting your Mercedes from normal to comfort suspension mode.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 8:47 PM
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Pitt, I read in a couple different places it did not pass wind tunnel tests. ie; failed. Regardless, here we are.

I agree with LvdW, The middle louvers don't bother me. It's symmetrical. Kinda like a little bowtie.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 8:51 PM
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If you squint at the greenery in the foreground of this picture, it sort of looks like palm trees.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 9:12 PM
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haha, I thought the same thing at first glance.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 9:36 PM
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I don't get why they wouldn't get (at least the upper) vents in a color that closely matches the glass. Can they paint these?
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Old Posted Oct 19, 2019, 12:03 AM
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I don't get why they wouldn't get (at least the upper) vents in a color that closely matches the glass. Can they paint these?
I personally prefer the contrast. I also don't mind the vents.
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Old Posted Oct 19, 2019, 12:49 AM
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I personally prefer the contrast. I also don't mind the vents.
I also am onboard with the vents' color/aesthetic. The halfway vent though is jarring.
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Old Posted Oct 19, 2019, 12:49 AM
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Any word on a lighting scheme at the very top for Vista because it looks like some led panels would fit comfortably behind the very top glass panels....

Opportunity lost imo
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Old Posted Oct 19, 2019, 1:32 AM
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I also am onboard with the vents' color/aesthetic. The halfway vent though is jarring.
I totally get the irritation by the masses of the halfway extension of the mid rise vents. One point of consideration. This is the back side of the building. Note that these vents don't wrap around any of the the adjacent sides. No one says anything about the fact that these bands of black just exist on one of four planes. There are no vents on any of the other three sides. This is the "back" of the ladies dress, where the zipper is and other parts. It's beautiful, imo. It has a nice character to it.

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