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Tragedy mystery.

I have been looking through some of my old files and happened upon this rppc showing a damaged, truncated bridge in Long Beach.



"Seaside Foot Bridge......Scene of fatal tradgedy [sic] March - 1938............................................................................................................................................Hoffman Photo Service, Long Beach, Calif. E"


There's no doubt that the damage was caused by the infamous flood of 1938.... Does anyone know what "fatal tragedy" happened on this bridge?

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Here it is, e_r:


LA Times 3/3/1938, via ProQuest, via CSULB Library
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1930 this is Vine St.

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Old L.A. is rapidly disappearing. We have to honor our past and fight blandness

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...honor-our-past

https://www.riplosangeles.com/

the LOS ANGELES series
a photographic love letter by artist ASHLEY NOELLE:


https://www.thelosangelesseries.com/
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Here it is, e_r:


LA Times 3/3/1938, via ProQuest, via CSULB Library
Thanks for solving the pedestrian bridge tragedy, odinthor. It's such a sad story.

While looking for additional information on the 10 victims (two women, a small boy, four sailors, four civilians)
I happened upon the "Lash of St. Francis" tropical storm that devastated the area the following year. (1939)

"The Lash of St. Francis (El Cordonazo de San Francisco) winds and rains came unexpectedly and suddenly, startling some Long Beachers
who had hit the strand that Monday during a searing summer heat wave that brought record-breaking temperatures of 103 degrees
just a few days earlier. As gales reached 65 mph, the Navy deployed four new destroyers attached to the Battle Fleet,
and the Coast Guard added a pair of cutters to rescue boaters in the Catalina Channel.

In all, 48 people were killed in California, including 24 aboard the vessel Spray (two passengers survived) as it was attempting to dock
near Point Magu and 15 aboard the Ventura fishing boat Lur."




The death toll of the Flood of 1938 was 96 people.

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Very interesting, e_r, about the Lash of St. Francis--I wonder if that's the old name for the Santa Ana Winds . . . ?

Meantime, back at the awning factory: I had supposed that our friends the Swanfeldts had ebbed away after Avalon stopped being a (mostly) tent town. How wrong I was! They seem to have been quite resilient. Here are some gleanings (all from the LA Times, via ProQuest, via CSULB Library):



5/25/1924



6/16/1933



11/6/1949



4/24/1952



1/13/1971
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Meanwhile; back in Long Beach.


LONG BEACH GRADE SCHOOL...1890 - 1965.............................................................................................................................


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The building was initially a one school schoolhouse built in 1890; in 1907 another room was added; in 1915 the rooms were enlarged and remodeled to make the building pictured.

It was replaced by a new brick school in 1965.

Is that a bunch of firwood? If so, the school must have had a wood burning stove / furnace. ...(my old grade school had a coal burning furnace)


BACK OF THE POSTCARD...IT DOESN'T INCLUDE AN ADDRESS.


I am trying to figure out where this wooden school was located.


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Sixth and Pine, e_r?

From an article talking about Long Beach doings:


LA Times 3/29/1903, via ProQuest, vis CSULB Library
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Lwize, thanks for posting this marvelous article. I wish that the L.A. Conservancy could be as effective as is Pasadena Heritage.
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Thanks for solving the pedestrian bridge tragedy, odinthor. It's such a sad story.

While looking for additional information on the 10 victims (two women, a small boy, four sailors, four civilians)
I happened upon the "Lash of St. Francis" tropical storm that devastated the area the following year. (1939)

"The Lash of St. Francis (El Cordonazo de San Francisco) winds and rains came unexpectedly and suddenly, startling some Long Beachers
who had hit the strand that Monday during a searing summer heat wave that brought record-breaking temperatures of 103 degrees
just a few days earlier. As gales reached 65 mph, the Navy deployed four new destroyers attached to the Battle Fleet,
and the Coast Guard added a pair of cutters to rescue boaters in the Catalina Channel.

In all, 48 people were killed in California, including 24 aboard the vessel Spray (two passengers survived) as it was attempting to dock
near Point Magu and 15 aboard the Ventura fishing boat Lur."




The death toll of the Flood of 1938 was 96 people.

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The Sept. 1939 storm was a Baja hurricane that came up the coast from Mexican waters and grazed the SoCal coast. By the time it hit the cooler waters off SoCal, it was losing strength and was barely a hurricane, perhaps a strong tropical storm. But the winds were significant, above 60 mph in the harbor area. It dumped lots of rain over the area, including in the desert and mountains. Several fishing boasts and other boats were sunk, and lives were lost. The flooding rains killed people as well over the area. An account of the storm can be found on Wikipedia. In summer 1976, a Mexican hurricane called "Kathleen" took a similar path (a bit more east) and came into CA as a weak tropical storm. Like the 1939 storm, it dumped record rain over the area, causing flooding in many areas. Because of the cool water off the CA coast, Mexican hurricanes usually weaken into tropical storms if they move north. The more common path for Mexican hurricanes is to the west or northwest, out into the Pacific towards Hawaii, where they usually remain as hurricanes because of the warm water. One such hurricane hit Kauii in the early '90s as they were filming "Jurassic Park", causing much damage to the island. Sometimes these hurricanes that form off the coasts of Mexico and Central America hold together all the way to Asia, and are then called "typhoons". Much of the monsoonal rains in the southwestern U.S. in late summer and early fall derives from these dying hurricanes.

Perhaps someone can link some of the L.A. Times stories about the storm of 1939 and the storm "Kathleen" in 1976.

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Sixth and Pine, e_r?

From an article talking about Long Beach doings:


LA Times 3/29/1903, via ProQuest, vis CSULB Library
I suspect there has been some street restructuring and street name changes since that school was operational. That was over 100 years ago since it was built.
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Sixth and Pine, e_r?

From an article talking about Long Beach doings:


LA Times 3/29/1903, via ProQuest, vis CSULB Library

................ I bet that's it! ..... Thanks, odinthor.

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Meanwhile; back in Long Beach.

LONG BEACH GRADE SCHOOL...1890 - 1965.............................................................................................................................


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The building was initially a one school schoolhouse built in 1890; in 1907 another room was added; in 1915 the rooms were enlarged and remodeled to make the building pictured.

It was replaced by a new brick school in 1965.

Is that a bunch of firewood? If so, the school must have had a wood burning stove / furnace. ...(my old grade school had a coal burning furnace)

BACK OF THE POSTCARD...IT DOESN'T INCLUDE AN ADDRESS.


I am trying to figure out where this wooden school was located.
Notice the publisher credit down the center - I think we're probably looking at Long Beach, WA rather than Long Beach, CA. If that is a stack of firewood, it probably adds to this theory.
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I stand corrected....I should have looked at it more closely.

The postcard is listed as Long Beach, California.... HERE

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Hmmm...so what did the grade school in Long Beach California look like?


Here is Lowell Elementary, damaged in the 1933 Earthquake.


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Description:.. "Art Deco style schoolhouse showing severe damage to central tower and left roof line. Photo mis-identified as Jefferson Junior High."


I'm sure Lowell Elementary was one of several grade schools in Long Beach CA., right?

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I suspect there has been some street restructuring and street name changes since that school was operational. That was over 100 years ago since it was built.
I'm thinking that street name changes may be the case here(if it's actually Long Beach, CA), there's a elementary school(Oropeza Elementary School) at 7th and Locust Ave. and looking at the aerials on FrameFinder, it's been there since the 1920's. That's one block to the northeast of 6th and Pine. I'm not seeing any building that matches in the aerial photos for the school house at 6th and Pine.

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Here is Lowell Elementary, damaged in the 1933 Earthquake.

Description:.. "Art Deco style schoolhouse showing severe damage to central tower and left roof line. Photo mis-identified as Jefferson Junior High."

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I think they also mis-identify this schoolhouse as "art deco."
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I think they also mis-identify this schoolhouse as "art deco."
Maybe that's a reference to the current structure:

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I looks like they retained either the undamaged portions of the original structure or used the same floor plan.
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I have a shot of this intersection prior to the tunnel being built. It has some of the same structures visible. Problem is, I don’t quite know how to make a good scan of it, and the print isn’t old, so there is no provenance. I found it in a closet in a warehouse that had been converted to a soundstage. It’s too big for my scanner, and I doubt a cell phone snap will do it justice. I’d love to share it. Please advise. Thanks for all of your contributions.
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