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ethereal_reality · #**17901** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 3:41 AM**

I just came across this amazing snapshot of Mary Pickford's dressing room of all things.
(I don't recall ever seeing her studio dressing room on the internet)

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I had some fun playing 'where's waldo' with the following photos.

-here it is in this aerial

http://www.oscars.org/events-exhibit...nts/films.html

larger view

...and in 1925.

http://www.hollywoodphotographs.com/...nks/?pg=5&r=12
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I wanted to include this earlier view from 1922 just to show the natural contours of water run-off in the undeveloped area.
(I wonder if LACreekFreak is aware of this photograph)

http://www.hollywoodphotographs.com/...nks/?pg=5&r=12
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Wig-Wag · #**17902** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 3:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's an amazing scan of Broadway in the 1890s

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What in the world is in front of that store window on the left? It looks like a mutant hand-rolled cigar!
Notice the women's umbrella..it's on a pivot so you can angle it to shield the sun.
Pretty ingenious, they should still make those today.
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ER, I would hazard a guess that the photographer or a passerby somehow managed to get an unlit cigar in front of the lens at the precise instant the shutter clicked.

Cheers,
Jack

ethereal_reality · #**17903** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 4:05 AM**

I have no other explanation Jack.-and what about the small home-made 'ramp' below it?

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

LAPL collection

Thanks for posting the photographs of Daddy Grant's BBQ CityBoyDoug. I always find interiors from the 1930s very interesting.

That's some pretty sparse decorations going on...are they Christmas lights I wonder?
But I only see, like two light bulbs...upper left. -maybe it's just depression era garland.
At first I thought that was a scrawny Christmas tree on the right, but on closer inspection it's only a coat rack with knobs.

Who's on the calendar? -looks like Hoover.
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BifRayRock · #**17904** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 4:07 AM**

Off the beaten path.

Mt. Lowe is too easy. Let's test out the Firestones on a trip to Mt. Wilson.

No date provided. From a collection of 112 post cards.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...L3BPF6M7T8.jpg

"Wig-wag, what's the policy about picking up hitch hikers?"

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...Q3C5NV5RPF.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...RR3YULTMI6.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...V8X2N6GKR1.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...RHN3AGI8Y8.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NCCXLC6BHH.jpg

No wonder the coffee seems old.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...M7UPIVSER3.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...XAGETGLY79.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...8VISQ6LCKN.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...4MCNDFRBCX.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...57TQMVYK34.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...5MQ2JDDVV8.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...59F8J3EBSQ.jpg

Worth the trip.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...J23PY4T2UE.jpg

Epilogue - Progress - Good Reception?

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...6CXJLI7U49.jpg

BifRayRock · #**17905** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 4:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wig-Wag

ER, I would hazard a guess that the photographer or a passerby somehow managed to get an unlit cigar in front of the lens at the precise instant the shutter clicked.

Cheers,
Jack

Vollmer's sold glass. Could the cigar really be something overhanging a wagon that might be used to protect cargo? Rolled up canvas tarps?

Even with a wide angle lens, it is doubtful something very close to camera would be in focus. Is it possible that the object is not part of the original negative?

CityBoyDoug · #**17906** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 6:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I have no other explanation Jack.-and what about the small home-made 'ramp' below it?

Thanks for posting the photographs of Daddy Grant's BBQ CityBoyDoug. I always find interiors from the 1930s very interesting.

That's some pretty sparse decorations going on...are they Christmas lights I wonder?
But I only see, like two light bulbs...upper left. -maybe it's just depression era garland.
At first I thought that was a scrawny Christmas tree on the right, but on closer inspection it's only a coat rack with knobs.

Who's on the calendar? -looks like Hoover.
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Yes, ER, this place is very spartan. Not one upholstered seat anywhere....just a lot of hard wood to sit on. They sell what may be cigars and candy in jars at the right side. The decorations do look like budget Christmas. There's a paper bell in the right side display case. Its probably bright red. The wall calendar? Hoover, yes and of course he was a symbol of the Depression in the 1930s. You know history so I'm sure you've heard that before.

I guess they featured the tasty southern-style BBQ food rather than decor.

CityBoyDoug · #**17907** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 6:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

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Off the beaten path.
Mt. Lowe is too easy. Let's test out the Firestones on a trip to Mt. Wilson. No date provided. From a collection of 112 post cards.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...8VISQ6LCKN.jpg

Dining room in the Mt. Wilson Hotel...1909. Looks large and comfortable with oil lamps near the ceiling. Fancy fluted napkins on the table...classy. Romantic.

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Note the auto stage at the far right side.

HossC · #**17908** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 2:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

This photo is marked "Bellflower." (Listings for Reinke's or Seelig in LA CD?

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The sidewalk near Reinke's garage looks like it has an early gas pump. Before Ethyl!

Somerset Street - early - mid '20s

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...YKRQV8U5AD.jpg

I've had no luck with the City Directories, but I did find this slightly wider shot on Ebay. I've stretched and tweaked the photo a bit to try and make it clearer.

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USC also have a picture of the same section of Somerset Street looking in the opposite direction. Theirs is dated 1929, so Sam Seelig should now be Safeway.

USC Digital Library

This close-up shows the sign for Reinke's Garage behind the utility pole of the right. The picture isn't clear enough to tell for sure, but it looks the Sam Seelig sign is still in place. In the distance, the word "Bellflower" is suspended over the street.

Detail of picture above

Chuckaluck · #**17909** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 4:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

I've had no luck with the City Directories, but I did find this slightly wider shot on Ebay. I've stretched and tweaked the photo a bit to try and make it clearer.

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USC also have a picture of the same section of Somerset Street looking in the opposite direction. Theirs is dated 1929, so Sam Seelig should now be Safeway.

USC Digital Library

Nice job!

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In 1869, the area known as Somerset Ranch, roughly from Alondra Boulevard to Artesia Boulevard, and from Lakewood Boulevard to Cornuta Avenue, was comprised of 4,000 acres of what would later become Bellflower. A few scattered parcels had been sold and the open fields were used for grazing dairy cows. http://www.bellflower.org/home/index.asp?page=221

More history: http://www.bellflower.org/home/index.asp?page=221

Never thought about "Our Gang" as being anything other than a comedy. Yet in 1929 . . . it fills the side marquee. Can't determine headliner to see if it's worth the trip from Victorville.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kAW9QRD04G...4e60106c_b.jpg]

http://www.kinomania.ru/images/photo...le/p_87222.jpg

Wig-Wag · #**17910** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 4:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Vollmer's sold glass. Could the cigar really be something overhanging a wagon that might be used to protect cargo? Rolled up canvas tarps?

Even with a wide angle lens, it is doubtful something very close to camera would be in focus. Is it possible that the object is not part of the original negative?

BifRayRock, your point about focus is well taken. Revising my thinking a bit, perhaps the "cigar" is actually a roll of canvas or something similar protruding from the rear of a vehicle exiting the frame.

Also, I'm not sure I understand your hitchhiker question, above.

Cheers,
Jack

BifRayRock · #**17911** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 5:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wig-Wag

I'm not sure I understand your hitchhiker question.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...Q3C5NV5RPF.jpg

Nothing to understand.

Not a serious question.

Your extensive train and train travel knowledge reminded me about hitchhikers and trainhoppers. Just thought you could size up these travelers. These/those days you can't be too careful.

Not everybody needing a ride is a sure bet, even if she looks like Veronica Lake .

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6K8JT5z1iK...ls%2529_02.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J2CW7t2xP6...s1600/IHON.jpg

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/12732/rec/96

http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/454/539/454539726_640.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B8VOtMjRdg...00/zone116.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...Zct5QDKayQpWIt

I am curious though, movies have depicted hobo/homeless/itinerant encampments, especially in the '30s, in and around rail yards. It is understandable why few in the media would cover this topic, except to highlight its eradication. Were there any well known camps in or near LA rail yards? Or would this describe virtually every blighted area? How often were riders able to avoid the Railroad police all the way to the Sherman/WHollywood Yards? (Probably no way to know) Come to think of it, street cars probably had to deal with their fair share of train hoppers, did the various street car lines have their own security force, or were they primarily reliant on LAPD or the Sheriff's Office?

http://d1g4sq00ps2bp3.cloudfront.net...ds/20234_2.jpg

http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...0s-granger.jpg

http://mitchsmoviemusings.files.word.../sullivans.jpg

Ouch?

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Tears roll down the face of Beverly [S], who along with her husband, George, pleaded guilty to assault charges in the robbery of a navy seaman. Beverly, 18, allegedly picked up the seaman in her car, then later picked up her husband, who pretended to be another hitchhiker. It was charged that George later struck the seaman with a blackjack.

1948

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics46/00057580.jpg

Earl Boebert · #**17912** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 7:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

I am curious though, movies have depicted hobo/homeless/itinerant encampments, especially in the '30s, in and around rail yards. It is understandable why few in the media would cover this topic, except to highlight its eradication. Were there any well known camps in or near LA rail yards? Or would this describe virtually every blighted area? How often were riders able to avoid the Railroad police all the way to the Sherman/WHollywood Yards? (Probably no way to know) Come to think of it, street cars probably had to deal with their fair share of train hoppers, did the various street car lines have their own security force, or were they primarily reliant on LAPD or the Sheriff's Office?

My father was a railroad policeman (Western Pacific) during the depths of the depression in Portola CA and Elko NV. LA Sheriffs worked with him in both locations pulling transients off of freight trains. I recall a dinnertime conversation with one of his Union Pacific colleagues where they were reminiscing about the old days and the UP guy recalled meeting LA Sheriffs in Salt Lake City. The Southern route from Oklahoma/Texas was so heavily patrolled that many would try to "end run" the blockade by swinging North. Plus the Santa Fe was notorious for hiring goons to patrol their yards.

Earl

ethereal_reality · #**17913** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 9:34 PM**

Los Angeles 1936

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Graybeard · #**17914** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 9:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Not everybody needing a ride is a sure bet, even if she looks like Veronica Lake .

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ethereal_reality · #**17915** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 9:45 PM**

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Chuckaluck · #**17917** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by gsjansen

i have been looking for like forever for a photograph of the Mickey Cohen backed nightclub Slapsy Maxie's, named for fighter and sometime bit part actor, Maxie Rosenbloom.

the club was located at 5665 wilshire boulevard between the years of 1943 and 1950, the former site of the wilshire bowl nightclub.

Source: LAPL

The location of the nightclub is the North East Corner of Wilshire and masselin, the future site of van de kamps wilshire coffee shop

Source: LAPL

anyway, without further adieu, i present to you slapsy maxie's,

1943

Source: Southern California Architectural History

1947 after it had been remodeled

Source: Southern California Architectural History

cartoon advertisement for slapsy maxie's

Easily overlooked is the fact that after the Wilshire Bowl, the place became The "Louisiana" ('42 -'43) Then it became Slapsy Maxie's. ('43 - '47) Per source.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00076/00076152.jpg

Gone to Miami ('47-'48 ??)

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00102/00102037.jpg

Photo commemorating Van De Kamp's Million Dollar Lease to take over Slapsy M's.
March 1950

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics48/00058639.jpg

ethereal_reality · #**17918** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 9:59 PM**

-Very interesting Chuckaluck. I wasn't aware of 'The Louisiana'.

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Chuckaluck · #**17919** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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That is, of course, the former "Station 61."

http://www.lafire.com/stations/FS061...mPhoto_516.jpg

More here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7493

unihikid · #**17920** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 10:51 PM**

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-Very interesting Chuckaluck. I wasn't aware of 'The Louisiana'.

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This is the Rimpua bus terminal,the white buick is either a 66 or 67 going west on pico.The number 7 bus line is still kicking and has to be the most active line on the Big Blue Bus line. It goes pretty much straight down pico to the beach,when i was in high school,there was a "special 7" that started at Westgate and Santa Monica and went east on Sanmo,then made a right at Westwood,and a left at Pico,it served the University High students pretty well,and i later found out it started at Bundy and Pico for the Webster Jr High students....The Big Blue Bus was a saving grace for going to Uni.

Also there use to be the 13 that use to go through my area,it had a stop at Saturn and Gennesse that they took out around 98,but i thought it was pretty cool seeing the Blue Bus go by on such a tiny street.