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Flyingwedge · #**40781** Posted **Mar 24, 2017, 3:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by C. King

USC needed the property to expand, so they built on their dime a new better looking station on the Southeast corner of Hoover St and 30th St. Opened in the last year or so.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0268...2!8i6656?hl=en
GSV

One of the docents at the LAFD Museum in Hollywood told me that USC also designed that station and
failed to include a place to dry the hoses.

Blaster · #**40782** Posted **Mar 24, 2017, 3:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Hi t2

Here's the link that wasn't working (sorry about that). It gives the date as 1954. (see photo below)

http://wehadfacesthen.tumblr.com/pos...oto-by-william

http://wehadfacesthen.tumblr.com/pos...oto-by-william

But they also had 1953 for awhile (now I'm totally confused)

Artnet agrees with the 1961 date.

http://www.artnet.com/artists/willia...QqFFSRY8RpLrQ2

And showstudio.com also has 1961 as the date.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/498984833684936262/

To me the clothing looks 1950s. Yet, I probably would go with 1961 because that date comes from an auction house, right?

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In my younger days, I used to marvel at photographs like this...

"My god," I would wonder, "How did the photographer ever manage to capture this incredible moment in time?"

Years later, as the scales fell from my eyes, it became clear that most of these incredible moments were staged -- even purposely shot a little "off" or a little out of focus, in order to appear extemporaneous.

HossC · #**40783** Posted **Mar 24, 2017, 8:00 PM**

It's Friday, and I've found another Julius Shulman photoset of a house in Beverly Hills. This one is "Job 3207: Rex Lotery, Parks House (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1961".

A closer look at the pool and its surrounds.

In recent pictures, this area is shown as a multi-car garage.

I'm guessing this is around the back.

And now, the interior.

Notice how the contoured wall panel on the left is the same pattern as the exterior panels, but with the in and out bits reversed (as if the exterior panels were a mold for the interior ones).

All from Getty Research Institute

A 2011 article at la.curbed.com gives the address as 1113 N Beverly Drive. It says that Michael LaFetra, who has also owned Pierre Koenig’s Case Study House #21, bought it when it came onto the market for the first time since it was built it 1960. The article also includes some recent pictures mixed in with some of Mr Shulman's. You can't see the house from the street, so here's an aerial view looking west.

Google Maps

Wanting a photographic rather than a computer generated view, I looked at supercharge.info. I hope that the missing garage structure in this north-looking view is just being rebuilt, because the Curbed article suggested that Michael LaFetra had restored the property. A quick Google didn't turn up any stories about the house being demolished (as seems to happen a lot in this area).

Google Maps via supercharge.info

ethereal_reality · #**40784** Posted **Mar 24, 2017, 9:12 PM**

That's some house Hoss.

re: Rex Lotery, Parks House (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1961"[/I].

Originally posted by HossC

getty

This is my favorite photo from the Shulman set.

Here's another look from the Michael Lafetra website.

http://michaellafetra.com/lotery-1113-n-beverly-dr/

At first I thought they moved the pool, but I think it's just out of view on the right.

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HossC · #**40785** Posted **Mar 24, 2017, 10:02 PM**

One of the comments on the Curbed article I linked to just says "poolside carports?". I see from the recent picture that they've given up trying to grow plants in the shade.

CityBoyDoug · #**40786** Posted **Mar 24, 2017, 10:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

That's some house Hoss.

re: Rex Lotery, Parks House (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1961"[/I].

Originally posted by HossC

getty

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Its almost brutally modern looking...kind of like a Frank Lloyd Wright house but without his signature endearing details.
What do you think ER and friends?

ethereal_reality · #**40787** Posted **Mar 24, 2017, 10:51 PM**

Yes, I see a resemblance CBD

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attac...arks-house.jpg

1121 W. 36th St., near Vermont Ave. [c.1944]

I almost fell over when I found this.....

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attac...s-house-la.jpg

Oh my gosh, the photograph was even longer than I first thought! (see below)

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attac...s-house-la.jpg

Here's a closer look at what's down the street. (I'm pretty sure we're looking toward Vermont Ave.)

city-data / detail

I spy a steam-roller. (and a church of course

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ethereal_reality · #**40788** Posted **Mar 24, 2017, 11:51 PM**

'mystery' location for tonight.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../id/1164/rec/1

I thought maybe we could help USC figure out the location of these two houses.

Here's their description....which really doesn't say much:

"Photograph of two two-story homes which may be located in Los Angeles. The house on the left has a porch on the second story,
a steeply peaked roof with a dormer window inside it, and a broad set of stairs leading to the front entrance. The house on the right is larger;
it has two large porches on both the first and second stories and a dormer window on the side."

They fail to mention the building in the distance on the right. (see detail below)

Could that be 'The Town House'? (or the 'Gaylord')

There are also numbers on the porch (but they're very difficult to read)

detail

Check it out at USC here:
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../id/1164/rec/1

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tovangar2 · #**40789** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 12:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location for tonight.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../id/1164/rec/1
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The combination of the radio tower & the rooftop sign instantly made me think of the Pacific Theater and the Knickerbocker. Does the address start with 16--?

I really don't know. Just a first impression.

HossC · #**40790** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 1:54 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

1121 W. 36th St., near Vermont Ave. [c.1944]

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http://www.city-data.com/forum/attac...s-house-la.jpg

I spy a steam-roller. (and a church of course

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I couldn't find any of these buildings still standing. The demo permit for 1121 W 36th Street was issued in 1970. The church was the 1912 Church of the Redeemer at 1075 W 36th Street. The 1960 CD lists it as the Bethesda Presbyterian Church. Its demo permit was issued in 1969, and the replacement tennis courts were built two years later. That part of W 36th Street is now Childs Way on the USC campus. Here's the area on the 1921 Baist map.

USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality · #**40791** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 4:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

The combination of the radio tower & the rooftop sign instantly made me think of the Pacific Theater and the Knickerbocker. Does the address start with 16--?

It might be 16 _ _ t2.

I've enlarged the porch a bit more.

detail

I'll have to check out the Knickerbocker area. Thanks for the suggestion.

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ethereal_reality · #**40792** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 4:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

I couldn't find any of these buildings still standing. The demo permit for 1121 W 36th Street was issued in 1970. The church was the 1912 Church of the Redeemer at 1075 W 36th Street. The 1960 CD lists it as the Bethesda Presbyterian Church. Its demo permit was issued in 1969, and the replacement tennis courts were built two years later. That part of W 36th Street is now Childs Way on the USC campus. Here's the area on the 1921 Baist map.

USC Digital Library

Hey, thanks for posting this map Hoss.

I'm going to look through various aerial photographs of USC campus and see if I can spot the church and the 'mystery' house.

(well it's not exactly a mystery I guess, but it sound more exciting that way.

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Maybe I can also find the old Fire Station #15 too.

The station used to have a tower, so hopefully that will make it easier to spot.

ethereal_reality · #**40793** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 4:57 PM**

Here's #15 with the tower. [c.1935]

http://www.lafire.com/stations/archi...Department.htm

3403 McClintock Street, near the USC campus.

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Here's a much larger (and clearer) photo.
http://www.lafire.com/stations/FS015...eCo15_1500.jpg

If interested, you can see the house that's in the distance on the right much better

This house.

I couldn't resist.

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ethereal_reality · #**40794** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 5:09 PM**

This was also in the USC area. (I could be wrong, but I believe the photo is new to NLA)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/

L. A. Riding Academy, Hoover & W. 31st St.

"Take University Yellow Car."

Phones
West 2120
Home 21872

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HossC · #**40795** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 5:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Maybe I can also find the old Fire Station #15 too.

The station used to have a tower, so hopefully that will make it easier to spot.

Here's Fire Station #15 in an aerial view that's dated circa 1940 (it's on the triangular island).

Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality · #**40796** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 5:40 PM**

Oh....that's GREAT!

That's just what I was looking for Hoss.

The tower is somewhat hard to see. -but it's there.

tovangar2 · #**40797** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 6:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

L. A. Riding Academy, Hoover & W. 31st St.

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I say, that's a building and intersection that doesn't exist anymore.

W 31st Street (red line) has been wiped out on both sides of Hoover.

google maps

At USC DL there's a 1928 shot of the L.A. Riding Academy at a different location. Source places it where the Pacific Design Center complex is now, but it looks more like the current location of the Bev Cen, so I don't know:

uscdl (detail)

ethereal_reality · #**40798** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 6:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

I say, that's a building and intersection that doesn't exist anymore.

W 31st Street (red line) has been wiped out on both sides of Hoover.

I noticed that too t2.

There's a tiny stretch of 31st over at Vermont.

google_maps

By happenstance, the building on that corner vaguely resembles the shape of the old stable.

But you have to squint really really hard.

ethereal_reality · #**40799** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 7:00 PM**

I happen upon this nice house on S. Catalina Street that's a block west of S. Vermont and south of Jefferson Blvd. (near USC)

gsv

In 1943 the attractive bungalow was the Young Korean Academy.

usc

3421 S. Catalina Street, Los Angeles Calif.

I found earlier images of the Y.K.A. that I'll post this afternoon.

ethereal_reality · #**40800** Posted **Mar 25, 2017, 7:35 PM**

Here's the Young Korean Academy in 1916. (different house)

"Hung Sa Dan (Young Korean Academy) in front of the Kungminhoe house on Temple Street, 1916."

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../16585/rec/327

I love the kids in the second story windows.

detail

note the Y.K.A. above the porch.

I don't have an exact address for this house.
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