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Old Posted Dec 2, 2020, 5:39 PM
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For the benefit of others who expect the content of a thread to match its title, could people please try to keep posts on topic? It is fine to have a couple of posts about a side issue, but when it becomes more than a page and the original intent of the thread is not even mentioned, there is a problem.

If a topic comes up, and it is of interest to you - and you think that it might require more than one (1) post - please just add a referrence to the proper thread and move the discussion there.
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2020, 7:53 PM
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Somehow you made it work. We cannot always design the city around how students feel.
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None of the examples I gave are doable by bicycle or walking. Are we really set to design things so that frail elderly and moms with small kids ride bikes around or walk through storms because we can't stand cars and prioritize bikes above transit?
Yep, no way "Hordes of people could get back and forth to work on time" could happen on a bike. None. Impossible....

As for the others, that's some serious whataboutism. And on for your fifth point: more power to them. It seems like you have a problem that goes beyond cycling; have you tried riding a bicycle lately?

Bringing this back to the Baseline BRT; the benefits of that project go far beyond the transit lanes, though that's obviously critical. The design also proposed proper cycle tracks and protected intersections along its entire length. Baseline is currently a significant barrier to safe cycling, and cycle tracks along the entire corridor would be a huge improvement. The proposal doesn't significantly affect the road lanes either - It's almost as if what is keeping us from having better urban streets is the demand for parking.

It's disappointing to see LRT to Barrhaven be put ahead of this. A person who commutes from Barrheven isn't going to see significant improvements to their commute if they have to switch from bus-train and back again 5 minutes further from home. People on Baseline who rely on cycling and the 88 are going to see a significant improvement to not only their commute, but also all the other things they use transit and cycling for.
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2020, 8:05 PM
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The design also proposed proper cycle tracks and protected intersections along its entire length. Baseline is currently a significant barrier to safe cycling, and cycle tracks along the entire corridor would be a huge improvement.
I believe this project also has plans for planting trees along the farm on the other side of the cycle / pedestrian track. This will help a lot with fighting wind gusts coming off the farm that make walking and biking really unpleasant in the winter.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2020, 1:55 AM
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It's disappointing to see LRT to Barrhaven be put ahead of this. A person who commutes from Barrheven isn't going to see significant improvements to their commute if they have to switch from bus-train and back again 5 minutes further from home. People on Baseline who rely on cycling and the 88 are going to see a significant improvement to not only their commute, but also all the other things they use transit and cycling for.
I agree. I don’t see much benefit to Barrhaven LRT at all, especially if it ends at Fallowfield where nearly everyone would have to transfer. The only beneficiaries would be the folks using the park and ride; to give them a one vehicle trip from their car.

Baseline BRT has much greater benefit to the many Barrhaven residents who work at Confederation Heights or AgCan.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2020, 3:06 AM
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Bringing this back to the Baseline BRT; the benefits of that project go far beyond the transit lanes, though that's obviously critical. The design also proposed proper cycle tracks and protected intersections along its entire length. Baseline is currently a significant barrier to safe cycling, and cycle tracks along the entire corridor would be a huge improvement. The proposal doesn't significantly affect the road lanes either - It's almost as if what is keeping us from having better urban streets is the demand for parking.
And most importantly, the addition of cycling infrastructure isn't what's holding back the Baseline BRT project in any way shape or form.

I do not get the logic at all shared by members that the reason we have poor bus service is due to cycling infrastructure or due to Urban councillors enthusiasm for bicycles but I'll try to stick to the topic at hand. Especially when like you said, entire lanes are occupied by parked cars.

I see the Baseline and Carling BRTs as an example of two low risk and (relatively) low cost solutions that will have a major positive impact for the Bus riders.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2020, 3:52 PM
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And most importantly, the addition of cycling infrastructure isn't what's holding back the Baseline BRT project in any way shape or form.

I do not get the logic at all shared by members that the reason we have poor bus service is due to cycling infrastructure or due to Urban councillors enthusiasm for bicycles but I'll try to stick to the topic at hand. Especially when like you said, entire lanes are occupied by parked cars.

I see the Baseline and Carling BRTs as an example of two low risk and (relatively) low cost solutions that will have a major positive impact for the Bus riders.
As I said in another thread, the solution is simple, if expensive: build a viaduct, either for rapid bus (with local buses running on street) or put the bikes on a viaduct (cheaper).
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