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Old Posted Mar 23, 2015, 10:38 PM
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Something big is being planned over at 80 South St ...

Plans for a Seaport Megatower?

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In a letter to shareholders on March 13, 2105, the Howard Hughes Corporation publicly disclosed the acquisition of property and air rights from 161-163 Front St., 167 Front St., 175 Front St., 164 John St., 205-207 Front St., 2 Fulton St., 89 and 94 South St. In the last quarter of 2014 they acquired properties at 80 and 83-85 South St.

The Howard Hughes Corporation has been busily assembling properties on the immediate outskirts of the South Street Seaport Historic District, that may allow them to build the largest residential mixed-use building in North America as-of-right,” said a Save Our Seaport spokesperson. […]

The HHC’s proposed “Seaport District Assemblage” may even be taller than 1 World Trade Center (without the antenna) utilizing 818,000 square feet on South Street between John and Fletcher Streets.”
Man, if we get another SHoP designed 1,300 footer here that would be epic.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2015, 11:36 PM
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A new rendering for 470 11th Ave which is ~ 720 feet or so.


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Man, if we get another SHoP designed 1,300 footer here that would be epic.
This is like their 5th one that they might design or are in the process? Damn, SHoP is on a roll. The supertall gods giving us their nectar and fruits.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2015, 2:12 AM
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Just who is this brute crashing our supertall party? And who is his friend?


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Old Posted Mar 24, 2015, 2:32 AM
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This looks similar to Libeskind's design for WTC1.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2015, 3:30 AM
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Now about this second tower (we get a peak behind "Portfolio"), I haven't heard much about it.


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Old Posted Mar 24, 2015, 3:44 AM
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I like it because it looks like they intentionally made it look somewhat similar to the wtc towers. For example, the glass is the same color. Anyways, I wish it had a more substantial spire but I would be very happy to get this building as it is.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2015, 3:45 AM
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looks like a 'what could have been' at 75 Nassau Street, which was recently cut from 800'+ to under 500'. (using 70 Pine as a height reference) Though it might be a bit south of where it should be.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2015, 12:11 PM
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Some general, misguided thoughts on superall rising...


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...That’s as high as Manhattan will climb for the foreseeable future. In the next half-dozen years, the Nordstrom Tower on 57th Street, by Adrian Smith and Gordon Gill, and Kohn Pedersen Fox’s One Vanderbilt, a likely neighbor to Grand Central Terminal, will both top out around 1,500 feet. Rafael Viñoly’s 432 Park, which now looks like a skewer in a pincushion, reaches just shy of 1,400. Seen from New York, the notion of a mile-high tower can seem like a distant, screwball real-estate venture, like an indoor ski slope in the desert or a fake Manhattan in China. “If we can build plenty of 50- and 60-story buildings, do we need any 120-story buildings?” asks the architect Jamie von Klemperer, who has an interest in the answer, since his firm, KPF, is designing the 65-story One Vanderbilt.

But just because there are no current plans to push a building’s height from profitable to narcissistic doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Manhattan is where global egos — and foreign money — come to roost, and there’s no telling what monuments they will choose to erect. Even a single Manhattan block could accommodate a 2,500-foot tower. A superblock — say, the one where Madison Square Garden now sits — could support something much bigger than that.

Although the next generation of superskyscrapers is likely to be built in other parts of the planet, they will still affect New York just by existing. The world’s tallest towers are outliers by definition, but a few 1,000-foot towers have already made their 800-foot sidekicks commonplace. Two or three contestants for the mile-high mark will sow an underbrush of half-milers.

New York may never again have the world’s highest anything, but those thin-air buildings halfway around the world will surely pull the local skyline upward. The real question is how those taller structures will shape the city below. “The big advances have less to do with ultimate height than with the way skyscrapers meet the ground, the way they’re intertwined with public space or the way public functions get integrated,” von Klemperer says.

That applies to One Vanderbilt, an office building that thousands of people will enter or cross through every day. Its base is stitched to transit, and its design needs government support. It is, in that sense, partly a public building. But a new economic lunacy is reshaping the skyline: the fact that a very few will pay vast sums for a tiny number of apartments that they rarely occupy. Their developers are selling a bizarre mixture of privacy and ostentation, and they require no approvals, which means they have no reason to care what the public thinks. That raises major moral questions.

Supertall, superskinny towers benefit hardly anyone, but their impact is citywide. The first time the confluence of technology and economics started reshaping the skyline, the city responded with the 1916 zoning code, which required tall buildings to recede as they climbed so that light and air would penetrate to the city’s lower zones. Those rules didn’t cap height or sap New York’s real-estate energy; rather, they gave us the classic setback tower — the Empire State Building, for example.

Now that we see how tall tomorrow’s tallest buildings will be, and how common the runners-up, we must adapt again. We could protect certain view corridors, as London does, or limit the shadows a tower casts, or impose an automatic public review on any building over 1,000 feet. What we need is a new ethics of the skyline — a way to wrestle with the question posed by SOM’s Ken Lewis: “Whom does the sky belong to? Given the density we live in, and given that the sky provides daylight to all of us, does someone else have the right to take it?”
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2015, 9:48 PM
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Hey hunser we have another one today!

130 William Street will be 581 feet and 50 floors. Mostly condos, some hotel, and regular apartments. So... thats two 650 footers plus, a 470 footer, and a 581 footer in the last two weeks. Plus, the announcement of a possible supertall near WTC, and 80 South street.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2015, 10:22 PM
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^ Yeah, New York is on a roll.

I'm really excited about 80 South St, I have a feeling we could see something very beautiful and tall rise here. And SHoP has proven itself to deliver.
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111W aka Steinway got another height bump, now 1,428ft / 435m.

http://www.111w57.com/






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