AUSTIN | ABIA Updates

[GoldenBoot]

Originally Posted by Austin1971

Heard that Condor is more than likely going to start year round service next year, twice weekly. If that goes well they will expand to four times weekly the year after that.

On that Trans-pacific flight we all want so badly. A few weeks back JAL representatives were at the port inspecting the facilities. JAL will use the port as a diversion port for their 787 operations at DFW. From what I heard they were very impressed with everything. Also the rumor is that they are in discussions about starting service coinciding with the opening of the new east pier.

Thanks for the update! We can always count on you!

So, it sounds like 2019 may be an exciting year; the opening of the new east pier, Condor moving to 4x weekly (year round), and possibly the addition of n/s service to Tokyo on JAL.

I would love to see Condor year round at 2x (or 3x) weekly and Lufthansa pick up 2x or 3x weekly using their new A350. Heck, I'd take their A332 or A333. Maybe one could fly to Frankfurt and the other to Munich. Ha. Yeah, I know...just fun and wishful thinking.

[austlar1]

Interesting that BA and Condor are both introducing service out of New Orleans this year that basically duplicates the flights offered by these two airlines out of Austin. I guess it is their strategy for second tier cities. The New Orleans flights will rely almost exclusively on tourists since New Orleans is not really much of an international business destination. It might be harder to make a profit relying so much on the tourist passenger.

[LoneStarMike]

January 2017 cargo and passenger traffic

Passenger Activity: Total passenger traffic for January 2017 was 920,946, up 5.5% compared to January 2016. January 2017 enplanements totaled 454,208, up 5%. Southwest Airlines passengers totaled 357,671, up 1.5% compared to January 2016; American Airlines passengers totaled 190,284, up 4%; United Airlines passengers totaled 134,998, up 1%; Delta Air Lines passengers totaled 109,863, up 9%; jetBlue Airways passengers totaled 43,752, up 13%; Frontier Airlines passengers totaled 23,522, up 36%; Alaska Airlines passengers totaled 17,395, up 31%; Allegiant Air passengers totaled 12,556, up 48%; Virgin America passengers totaled 11,838, up 5%; British Airways passengers totaled 9,877, up 0.1 %; Air Canada passengers totaled 3,394, up 18%; AeroMexico passengers totaled 2,932; Volaris passengers totaled 2,183; and Texas Sky passengers totaled 126, up 5%.

January 2017 air cargo totaled 13,583,548 lbs., up 11.5% compared to January 2016. International air cargo totaled 1,643,748 lbs., up 93.5%. Federal Express carried 8 million lbs., up 8.5%; and United Parcel Service carried 2.5 million lbs., up 32%.

Air Services transferred 452,562 lbs. of mail, up 18%; and 1,278,598 lbs. of belly freight, up 3%.

Aircraft Operations: General Aviation operations totaled 4,340, up 8%. Combined operations (including commercial and military) totaled 15,661, up 5%.

[Jdawgboy]

The possibility of a direct Tokyo route would be ideal for several of my Japanese friends and aquantances as well as would give me a push ahead to plan a trip to Tokyo.

Just knowing ABIA is going to be a diversion port for JAL is cool enough in that we may occasionally see their planes here. Hopefully it is a sign of things to come.

I've said this before but it warrants repeating. ABIA will continue to be the dominant port for the southern half of the state for international travel. The runways are there, the space and the capacity to expand significantly is there. It's location makes it easily accessible from DT and the metro with 3 major arteries to access it. Austin got very lucky with timing of the base closure.

Yay and the January numbers are in! Looking good.

[GoldenBoot]

Originally Posted by Jdawgboy

Just knowing ABIA is going to be a diversion port for JAL is cool enough in that we may occasionally see their planes here. Hopefully it is a sign of things to come.

If I am not mistaken, ABIA has been the primary diversion airport for all long haul international routes serving DFW & IAH (regardless of airline).

Now, I will say, ABIA may not be the primary diversion airport with regard to A380 operations...yet.

[Jdawgboy]

Originally Posted by GoldenBoot

If I am not mistaken, ABIA has been the primary diversion airport for all long haul international routes serving DFW & IAH (regardless of airline).

Now, I will say, ABIA may not be the primary diversion airport with regard to A380 operations...yet.

Yea, I know that there have been diverted flights which are occasionally mentioned on the thread and it's always interesting to hear about what carriers show up.

But that brings up the question as to why JAL representatives would have to inspect the port just for the purpose of routing diverted JAL flights to ABIA if it's pretty common for any long haul regardless of airline? Have other international carriers sent representatives here just for the purpose of diversions? It's becoming pretty clear that they were here for more than simply inspecting the facilities just for route diversions. It gives the rumors of a direct route more weight.

Will be interesting to see how things play out in the coming months.

[JoninATX]

Originally Posted by Jdawgboy

The possibility of a direct Tokyo route would be ideal for several of my Japanese friends and aquantances as well as would give me a push ahead to plan a trip to Tokyo.

Just knowing ABIA is going to be a diversion port for JAL is cool enough in that we may occasionally see their planes here. Hopefully it is a sign of things to come.

I've said this before but it warrants repeating. ABIA will continue to be the dominant port for the southern half of the state for international travel. The runways are there, the space and the capacity to expand significantly is there. It's location makes it easily accessible from DT and the metro with 3 major arteries to access it. Austin got very lucky with timing of the base closure.

Yay and the January numbers are in! Looking good.

You know what also could work would be a direct flight from Austin to Seoul. Since Samsung is established here, I never understood why Austin never had a direct flight to any Asian country? Plus I myself have never been oversees and would love to have something along the lines of having a direct flight to Asia.

[drummer]

^^ I think Seoul is one of the nicest airports in the world also. I've said that before and I'll continue to say it. It would also be a convenient route for me to get back to Austin.

[GoldenBoot]

As for fun, wishful thinking…how about the following new routes by the early 2020’s?
(Assuming American legacy airlines continue to not include n/s international routes out of AUS)


AUS-LHR – British Airways B773ER (up from the B789)

AUS-GRU – LATAM via B788, B789 or A359

AUS-(FRA and/or MUC) – Lufthansa via A333 or A359

AUS-ICN – Asiana via A359

AUS-CDG – Air France via A332, A359, or B789

AUS-PTY – Copa via B738

AUS-YVR – Air Canada via A319 or A320 OR WestJet via B73G

AUS-KEF – WOW via A333

AUS-PEK – Hainan via B789

AUS-LGW – Norwegian via B788

AUS-ARN – Norwegian via B788

AUS-DOH – Qatar via A359, B788 or B789

PLUS – A couple of Caribbean destinations offered by jetBlue or Spirit



**NOTE-1: Not all of these routes would be daily – at least initially**

**NOTE-2: Please do not start telling me how this cannot be true or how it cannot work. It's purely for fun.**

[drummer]

Instead of PEK, I'd suggest PVG or CAN/SZX (even though I hate personally Guangzhou). These are both larger manufacturing areas that partner with software/hardware companies like those based in Austin. PEK would require another leg for lots of folks out of Austin even though it's generally a larger connection point for China. Another to consider is CTU, though that would be a similar issue with PEK.

[lzppjb]

I don't know a single one of those abbreviations. I'm not much a world traveler.

[sammyk]

Originally Posted by lzppjb

I don't know a single one of those abbreviations. I'm not much a world traveler.

https://www.world-airport-codes.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...pe_designators

[jbssfelix]

Originally Posted by GoldenBoot

AUS-YVR – Air Canada via A319 or A320 OR WestJet via B73G

Don't you dare tease me with that!

[Trim 1980]

Aus to Msp on Sun Country announced today
Also from the south terminal

[quikkings711]

AUS to SJC on AS announced today.

https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2017-...m-the-Bay-Area

[GoldenBoot]

YUK! Just noticed the AeroMexico and Volaris numbers for January...and they are pretty bad in terms of passenger load factor.

Are those flights to MEX and GDL daily flights?

[jbssfelix]

Originally Posted by GoldenBoot

YUK! Just noticed the AeroMexico and Volaris numbers for January...and they are pretty bad in terms of passenger load factor.

Are those flights to MEX and GDL daily flights?

I can only imagine it slowing even more with President Cheeto's immigration policy that has since took effect.

[Austin1971]

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[DoubleC]

Yip, mainline aircraft is just too much for any Mexican route (save for maybe seasonal and leisure routes). Expect Volaris to pull out considering they won't be getting smaller sized aircraft just for 1 route, unless they push for more regional service.

Keep the new routes comin . Maybe tomorrow we'll get a new one too lol.

[brando]

Originally Posted by DoubleC

Yip, mainline aircraft is just too much for any Mexican route (save for maybe seasonal and leisure routes). Expect Volaris to pull out considering they won't be getting smaller sized aircraft just for 1 route, unless they push for more regional service.

Keep the new routes comin . Maybe tomorrow we'll get a new one too lol.

No!!!! I need a Austin to Monterrey flight!