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Old Posted Dec 19, 2014, 7:53 AM
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You'd have to do more than just cover them.

Kelowna/Southern Okanagan has a more temperate winter than southern Quebec, and I don't know anyone that has successfully grown a windmill palm there. All it takes is one Canadian cold snap, and no amount of covering is going to save it.

Serious question (because I've heard many times on this forum that you can grow windmill palms in other parts of Canada): Have any forumers here actually seen windmill palms being grown in their part of Canada? Despite hearing these claims, I've never seen any photos showing it.
Yes, they grow in Montréal.

http://windmillpalms.info/fr/



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Old Posted Dec 19, 2014, 9:07 AM
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Interesting. Thanks, GreaterMontréal.

It's crazy how mummified they have to be to survive, but I guess it's worth all that work if you really want to have palms in your yard. In Metro Vancouver, I think Surrey is as far east as you can grow them without any protection in the winter. I don't think they would survive in Abbotsford without some type of covering. I could be wrong though.

I personally don't get the attraction to windmill palms. They're so gruff-looking. I can see why people like coconut palms - they look great, offer lots of shade, sound nice blowing in the wind, and fresh coconut juice is awesome, but they're a dangerous, messy and time-consuming tree. We had one in our yard in Taiwan, and there was always something to take care of with it. Beautiful to look at, but a pain to maintain.

I'm not sure what I'm trying to get at here. Maybe it's that palm trees are pretty overhyped in Canada.
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2014, 9:15 AM
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I am suspect of how those palms in Montreal are cared for, I would not be surprised if many of them are stored in hot houses during the winter or are wrapped up so much you can't even tell a palm is there in the winter.

Essentially because below -11 all the palm reproductive organs are killed. Most of them, if left exposed, will die completely between temps of -15 to -20.

So they can be present in decently cold winter climates, but they will be far more prolific and healthier in climates such as Vancouver and Victoria.

Around White Rock, south Van, parts of the Sunshine Coast, the Victoria area, and the gulf Islands self distributed palms (escapes) have been found. Usually these escapes are found in neighboring yards. What seems to be a really hard grass starts to pop up but it is actually a baby palm.

So yes, there are windmill palms in other parts of Canada, but the BC coast is the only place they can be gown with little to no care (even neglected ones will survive just fine)

And for the record, they grow in Abbotsford just fine. They are in Agassiz as well. Hope is more of the barrier in the Fraser Valley.

Victoria can grow a couple varieties of palms, including a few Washington Palms.

This is pic I always love of the Victoria city hall. In Victoria the palm trees can actually reach true palm tree sizes.



http://vibrantvictoria.ca/local-news...y-hall-levees/

Wish there was a better pic of this.

And some of my own:

Victoria:



Gardens in Vancouver (you can see the barries)



Near English Bay



Close up of the berries (this palm is on Robson street)



Now these are in Tofino, and they can't grow anywhere else in Canada. They grow like weeds on the west coast of Vancouver Island and on the Gulf Islands. In metro Vancouver they are stunted and can only really survive right next to the ocean (Downtown / White Rock). Easter suburbs, nope.





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Old Posted Dec 19, 2014, 9:26 AM
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The Victoria City Hall palm looks pretty nice actually.


Here's a palm-free shot of Shanghai I took two days ago.

sans rbg by matteroffact, on Flickr
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2014, 9:34 AM
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somehow that remains a compelling shot, even given its lack of palm trees.
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2014, 7:28 PM
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Walked around a few hoods in my hometown yesterday. Typical cold and grey december day. Took a few shots. Chose 20 to share. Some of them, however, are from the end of October.
Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu (QC) is located 50 kms southeast from Montreal and was founded in 1666/1667. The CA and the city itself have a population of around 95 000.
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Richelieu River, the East Shore, the West Shore...



The Chambly Canal old towpath has become a 19km long linear park along the waterfront


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Neighborhood : Vieux-Saint-Jean (Old Saint-Jean). The oldest in the city. Quite lively.

Place publique du Vieux-Saint-Jean


Richelieu St. (kind of a Main St.)






Saint-Jacques St.


Longueuil St.... leading to the Courthouse, featuring many notary and law offices
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Around the Courthouse


Jacques-Cartier St.


Uptown, around Market Place and city hall




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Neighborhood : Faubourg Chambly. One of the fist developed outside the old fort walls (late 1790's). Centered around the old Chambly canal locks. It was mostly industrial.

Champlain St.


Vernacular industrial housing and one of the Stations


Canal Chambly lock no. 9


Typical scenes of the Canal in winter

Source 1, by Ville de Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, on Flickr
Source 2, by Ville de Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, on Flickr

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Neighborhood : Faubourg St-Jacques. It's the western industrial extension of downtown.



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Neighborhood : Iberville. Founded in 1733. Developed on the eastern shore of Richelieu river in the early 1800's.

Around 5th Avenue


William Plenderleath Christie Mansion (built 1835 to 1841)
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Great pics of St-Jean-sur-Richelieu, which looks really nice. But it would certainly look much, much better without all the electric poles!
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2014, 9:08 PM
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Great pics of St-Jean-sur-Richelieu, which looks really nice. But it would certainly look much, much better without all the electric poles!
Thanks! Totally agree with you about the wires... Though some people are actually fighting for the preservation of the electric poles as a part of the hydroelectric heritage...
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Wow, gorgeous photos, Lace!
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Thanks! Totally agree with you about the wires... Though some people are actually fighting for the preservation of the electric poles as a part of the hydroelectric heritage...
R U serious ?
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2014, 9:43 PM
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Wow, gorgeous photos, Lace!
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R U serious ?
Totally, it is a huge concern among the land planners from the communities I have worked with. I am confronted with this question basically in EVERY landscape architecture project I do... ()
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Meh. We're all half civilized. At least we take down the old wires when we replace them - don't just keep piling on new ones until the sky is black with rubber.
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2014, 12:16 AM
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3rd picture looks like St-john's
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Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu and Halifax look wonderful!
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2014, 12:46 AM
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3rd picture looks like St-john's
A lot of the city looks like that. I'd like to do more extensive neighbourhood photo tours but I never seem to have the time when I go back. There's a fair amount of ground to cover; the interesting (roughly equivalent to pre-WWI) areas cover most of the peninsula, a little bit of the mainland, and the central part of Dartmouth.
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I was going to say I loved the third.

Now, don't get me wrong, I know that 1, 2, and 5 are objectively from a larger city... but there's just something about... everything piled on top of each other, "everyone living on each other's lap", about #3 (and 4, really) that feels... satisfying to live in... for me.
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Nice shots and well put together set, Laceoflight. I am embarrassed to say that I have never actually been to the old part of Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu.
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