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I'm glad they decided to add the antenna 50 years later to make it bearable to look at it from afar.

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I'm glad they decided to add the antenna 50 years later to make it bearable to look at it from afar.

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It looked just fine without the antenna. You're just used to seeing it. Hopefully the new antenna, if built, will look better than the current one.



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I wonder if they could modify the antenna to be more of a spire. This way, the tower would be 1,472' and actually count towards its overall height. Its such a integral part of the ESB. Without it, it looks foreign. Maybe because I'm so use to seeing it with the antenna and wasn't around in the good old days when it was just the spire, and blimps landed on it. It would be pretty cool to see that again. I'd be a hell of a tourist trap. Blimps that fly around the Island. But in terms of the antenna itself, the ESB pulls it off so majestically. Usually it doesn't look good on towers (Times Building for example), but it fits so perfectly. Even at night too.
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I wonder if they could modify the antenna to be more of a spire. This way, the tower would be 1,472' and actually count towards its overall height. Its such a integral part of the ESB. Without it, it looks foreign. Maybe because I'm so use to seeing it with the antenna and wasn't around in the good old days when it was just the spire, and blimps landed on it. It would be pretty cool to see that again. I'd be a hell of a tourist trap. Blimps that fly around the Island. But in terms of the antenna itself, the ESB pulls it off so majestically. Usually it doesn't look good on towers (Times Building for example), but it fits so perfectly. Even at night too.
any extensions would not be counted, as they aren't apart of the original design. IMO The setup right now is fine, plus it looks great at night. Also I think the mooring station never happened. Complications and all that.
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The Best Vantage Point IMO would be Top of The Rock Outdoor observation deck ... I went last year & it was unforgettable !!
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any extensions would not be counted, as they aren't apart of the original design. IMO The setup right now is fine, plus it looks great at night. Also I think the mooring station never happened. Complications and all that.
This is a misconception. Any architectural additions like a true spire would be considered as part of the height. Think about how silly it would be otherwise. An antenna on the other hand, would not be counted. Although 1WTC blurred the lines on any distiction so much that the terms are now almost useless.
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The Best Vantage Point IMO would be Top of The Rock Outdoor observation deck ... I went last year & it was unforgettable !!
Yea I always tell people that the rock has the best views. Although in a couple of years, that might change as 30 Hudson will have a deck which would allow the light show to be seen from a unique perspective. WTC1 as well this coming spring.
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For the second time in history, the ESB is once again the 3rd tallest building in New York, after 1WTC and 432 Park Avenue. Other towers are on the way to push the King even more down the list: Nordstrom, 111W57th, 125 Greenwich, and 30 HY. After these bad boys are completed, say 2017/18, the ESB will be the 7th tallest building in the city. And don't forget 2WTC, which will restart in a couple of years. My guess is that by 2025 the King will eventually drop out of the top 10.

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Empire State Building's managers face new investor suit

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The Empire State Building's managers were accused in a new lawsuit filed in federal court in Manhattan of defrauding investors when the New York skyscraper was taken public.

Similar suits in state court in Manhattan were dismissed in July after a judge said the investors had agreed not to sue the managers, Peter Malkin and his son Anthony, after settling with them in a related case. Investors in those cases said the Malkins wrongfully turned down higher offers for the building by itself to drive up the value of 17 other Malkin-owned buildings by making the Empire State Building the centerpiece of a real estate investment trust.

Investors allege in the case filed Thursday that the Malkins schemed to "usurp power, revenue and ultimately the building itself," from its owners by issuing false and misleading statements to gain investors' consent to the consolidation of the properties. The trust of the Malkin owned-buildings is called Empire State Realty Trust Inc., according to the complaint.

"Although the Empire State Building owners bore the expense of the transaction, defendants reaped enormous windfalls, including securities projected to be worth over $730 million," according to the complaint. Investors say that as a result of the actions by the Malkins, the proceeds of the public offering were reduced by at least $234 million.
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