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Old Posted Oct 24, 2006, 6:51 PM
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scribeman, maybe you need some professional help if driving through any city depresses you. It seems you live a sorry and sad life...
No, I think it's the abandoned buildings, the empty shell of a city that remains, the homeless, or possibly the fact that there is no gradient to that "city", for great want of a better word, that is attractive. Ugh. The other day it was so foggy everything was coated in gloom; it's like the sun never shines here.
I seriously cannot wait to leave Michigan and never, ever return. If I had known then what I know now, I would have chosen a real state for college.
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2006, 8:52 PM
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Then go away or quit bitching, because you aint contributing here. Head off to Cali, sweet-pea
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To broad brush Detroit like that scribey goes a long way of saying you'd rather complain about the problem then be part of the solution. furthermore you seem intent on only looking FOR the bad of the city and not really opening yourself up to the GREAT! Get off the damn freeway.

Or just drive through the city and keep on going. Please.
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2006, 9:16 PM
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Detroit looks 100 times better on a sunny day...that being said, it is home and I love it.
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2006, 9:52 PM
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To broad brush Detroit like that scribey goes a long way of saying you'd rather complain about the problem then be part of the solution. furthermore you seem intent on only looking FOR the bad of the city and not really opening yourself up to the GREAT! Get off the damn freeway.

Or just drive through the city and keep on going. Please.
Do you actually realize how far down the path to receivorship Detroit really is? Do you have any idea how bad things are? It's the poorest city in the nation.
It's so bad that people are pulling their dead relatives out of Detroit at a higher rate than population is growing.
I don't like to purposefully knock anything, but it isn't insulting when I say that until I actually moved to Michigan I had never known that poverty and abandoned buildings were so prolific in North America. Detroit is a very bad joke, and I know that I for one am not laughing. Or trying to somehow paint over it with pictures of the .0000000001% of it that still stands.
Yeah, so I'm not "part of the solution", but I'm not lying through a photo lens. Detroit has so many severe problems I feel that pictures such as these (and those insipid casino commercials) are to Detroit what a pictures of someone floating in a suburban pool are to southern India being destroyed by monsoons.

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Old Posted Oct 24, 2006, 10:13 PM
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Whoa, Detroit looks amazing in these pics. LMich, thanks so much for kicking this rascal off. Nice inclusions TNTD. Thanks to all who've added.
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2006, 11:27 PM
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I seriously cannot wait to leave Michigan and never, ever return. If I had known then what I know now, I would have chosen a real state for college.
Ellaborate on "real". Hollywood? Sounds like you're getting your ass kicked here in Michigan. It'll do that to the weaklings. Like a sour taste in its mouth, it will be happy to spit you out back where you came from.

And just so you're aware, asking TNTD to realize the reality of Detroit is like telling God all he needs to know about Heaven.

If you are in a desperate search to find a group of people who can't be more honest about Detroit, YOU'VE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE!

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Old Posted Oct 25, 2006, 12:02 AM
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Do you actually realize how far down the path to receivorship Detroit really is? Do you have any idea how bad things are? It's the poorest city in the nation.
It's so bad that people are pulling their dead relatives out of Detroit at a higher rate than population is growing.
I don't like to purposefully knock anything, but it isn't insulting when I say that until I actually moved to Michigan I had never known that poverty and abandoned buildings were so prolific in North America. Detroit is a very bad joke, and I know that I for one am not laughing. Or trying to somehow paint over it with pictures of the .0000000001% of it that still stands.
Yeah, so I'm not "part of the solution", but I'm not lying through a photo lens. Detroit has so many severe problems I feel that pictures such as these (and those insipid casino commercials) are to Detroit what a pictures of someone floating in a suburban pool are to southern India being destroyed by monsoons.
Are you Dick DeVos? Seriously?! Your argument is basically blame blame blame, followed by woe, blame, over-exaggeration, and then you even pull it together with some comparison to India (where I'm sure Mr. DeVos knows well since he will move jobs there next...)

Thats really the beauty of the lying camera, though. I didn't doctor one of my photos. I didn't add an extra light on in a building or copy happy people on every street corner. I simply display what MY city looks like. And whether your doomsday-laden commentary (as if we aren't used to that!) doesn't get it or - worse yet - can't get it - try to get my simple point here:

WE ARE BUILDING UP AND BUILDING UP -SLOWLY TO BE SURE- AS A GREAT CITY AGAIN BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN A GREAT CITY.

Where people like you slam Detroit by saying 1 Ten-Billiononth of it still stands (you must live here to buy such good crack, dude) the rest of us are enjoying a night at Slows BBQ, watching thousands of new lofts rise, watching a Westin grow from a ruin and watching thousands of people filling this city nearly nightly just for the fact that it is THE city!

I won't lie. Times are rough - there's crime that is still too high, public schools that cannot meet expectations, an auto industry that will behave in the 21st century in a way it never had to in the 20th... but how you can't or won't see the great successes that are still happening is beyond me.

Like I've said for years, Mr. DeVos-in-scribeman's-clothing: you won't be the first person to abandon Detroit, but get out of here fast and let the people who do care and do work for this renaissance - in whatever way they can - keep doing what you choose not to.

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Old Posted Oct 25, 2006, 12:03 AM
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just a question scribe, to what extend has ur involvement with Detroit been? And if ur so critical of abandonment and of the City of Detroit why doesnt Birmingham/Royal Oak/Somerset suit your needs? its probably as rich or richer than anywhere you're intending on going. Furthermore, dont post on this website with such resolution as if YOU have something to tell us. Especially without any knowledge of urban issues, or even Detroit based statistics, which your analysis clearly shows you lack...assclown

let me just say, that TNTD is right...you won't be the first person to abandon Detroit. But for me, Detroit has almost a romantic attraction, one that recognizes the grit but also the resiliance of its people and city. When it returns to a level that dumbasses like you can enjoy, then we will appreciate it sooooo much more...when you come back to visit your family or friends or whatever like 40 years later, youll be like Detroit is so much better than it used to be, etc etc..but it wont mean anything the way it will for us

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Old Posted Oct 25, 2006, 2:55 AM
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Take Detroit as what it is. I find that it stimulates my mind. When I view the city I see its past, present and what could be. There is beauty in the decay, but even more in the way people have formed communities in the face of adversity.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2006, 3:13 AM
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scribeman, every city has crime, poverty, and abandonment issues. Detroit just happens to have a bigger problem than most. Granted, it doesn't have the highest crime rate nor is it the poorest city nor does it have the worst schools. What it does have though is the worst public image, and you only perpetuate that image by spouting nonsense. I can guarantee that you've seen little of the city and know even less about it, so before you make yourself into an even bigger fool, I suggest you stop right there.
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Foot of Woodward from Vinton Building


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Scott Fountain - Belle Isle Park


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From the roof of the MotorCity Casino - October 24, 2006


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Grand River at MotorCity Casino expansion


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Old Posted Nov 11, 2006, 7:23 AM
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Ian has posted some GREAT new photos...

The new YMCA with a great backdrop:


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Book Tower Vista


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The Book Cadillac Resurrected! The old mechanical penthouse pictured here, is being turned into a three unit penthouse(s)


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Looking over the expansion Detroit Medical Center with Brush Park in the foreground undergoing a massive transformation with countless renovations and plenty of new construction, to match.


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The infamous (and rusted) Book Tower fire escape, overlooking Capitol Park.


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Very nice photography! Thanks for posting!
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