If You Could Build ONE Highrise Downtown.... - Page 2

Coldrsx · #21 Posted **Nov 16, 2009, 5:10 PM**

^you do not need curtain wall when design is SUPER AWESOME WICKED NESS.

kcantor · #22 Posted **Nov 16, 2009, 5:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

^you do not need curtain wall when design is SUPER AWESOME WICKED NESS.

i guess you only "need" it for soap boxes then...

Kevin_foster · #23 Posted **Nov 16, 2009, 5:35 PM**

^ Cold, you KNOW that if a tower like that was to be built here, it would be done with manufactured panels and stucco.

Remember my Venetian tower? Yeah. That.

Coldrsx · #24 Posted **Nov 16, 2009, 5:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by cdnklc

i guess you only "need" it for soap boxes then...

The podium of the Chrysler with its monotone punched windows would be a more than acceptable substitute.

kcantor · #25 Posted **Nov 16, 2009, 6:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by bigcitydude

....what would it look like (feel free to show a photo to give a rough idea, office or condo, doesn't matter), and how high would you go? (height restrictions still in place?)

[moved to keep Kevin happy]

what they will look like and how high they will go will be a function of the site and its location. the higher the better but regardless of zoning, "leasability" and/or "saleability" (and as a result actual "buildability") are just as important as height on its own. and also more important than just height on its own are the urban edges/streetscapes that we interact with (i.e. sobey's, city hall, hotel macdonald etc.) where i'll take the allard small "strip mall" on jasper over scotia place any day...

Kevin_foster · #26 Posted **Nov 16, 2009, 8:17 PM**

^ cough cough, active developers need not reply to this thread

Unless they contain any renderings of future plans

0773|=\ · #27 Posted **Nov 16, 2009, 9:00 PM**

I don't mind bigcitydude's suggestion that a new building have glass, but not be so 'boxy'. It seems like heresy to suggest that here, but how about something like 225 South Sixth in Minneapolis? (We can always remove that 'crown' feature if people don't like that...)

Photo by Clue Master

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25738324@N00/451815006/

Come to think of it, The Edmontonian also covered all those bases... round, glass, unique by Edmonton standards... Sadly, it seems to be a dead proposal at this point.

Daveography · #28 Posted **Nov 16, 2009, 9:21 PM**

^ The Edmontonian did have a nice-looking tower, but the podium, oh lord was the podium design awful.

kcantor · #29 Posted **Nov 16, 2009, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by bigcitydude

....what would it look like (feel free to show a photo to give a rough idea, office or condo, doesn't matter), and how high would you go? (height restrictions still in place?)

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Originally Posted by Kevin_foster

^ cough cough, active developers need not reply to this thread

Unless they contain any renderings of future plans

no secret plans - just a desire that anything i do look as good in a hundred years as it does now per Coldrsx's posting of the chrysler building which is one of my favourites as are the following:

lever house courtesy of wiki. ny's first curtain wall and built in 1951/1952.

rockefeller centre courtesy of wiki. 14 buildings all built in the 1930's.

not necessarily the tallest or the trendiest but some of the best executed...

it probably wouldn't look like the cor building in miami as i can't decide whether the imagery reminds more of swiss cheese or the grater...

photo courtesy of inhabitat

Kevin_foster · #30 Posted **Nov 16, 2009, 10:21 PM**

^ looks like a grater to me. Do not want.

sdimedru · #31 Posted **Nov 16, 2009, 11:13 PM**

^^^
everytime I read those words I think of this pic...

s211 · #32 Posted **Nov 17, 2009, 1:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by 0773|=\

I don't mind bigcitydude's suggestion that a new building have glass, but not be so 'boxy'. It seems like heresy to suggest that here, but how about something like 225 South Sixth in Minneapolis? (We can always remove that 'crown' feature if people don't like that...)

Photo by Clue Master

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25738324@N00/451815006/

Come to think of it, The Edmontonian also covered all those bases... round, glass, unique by Edmonton standards... Sadly, it seems to be a dead proposal at this point.

Looks like a messy closet full of hat boxes.

bigcitydude · #33 Posted **Nov 17, 2009, 1:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

yup... that was me and this would be very much 'if i could'... but if i was only limited to one building, this would be what i would build on the commonwealth lands.

(http://theblackcommenter.files.wordp...ysler-bldg.jpg)

lol--well, it's a nice building, but would a classic like that fit into Edmonton's bland downtown?

kcantor · #34 Posted **Nov 17, 2009, 1:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by s211

Looks like a messy closet full of hat boxes.

or a client and an architect that couldn't make their minds up and decided to have some of everything instead. all too common i'm afraid - sort of like the "i'll take one circle, one square and one triangle" school gone mad instead of having enough discipline to make the execution work as a whole...

azriely towers photo courtesy of wiki

Coldrsx · #35 Posted **Nov 17, 2009, 1:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by bigcitydude

lol--well, it's a nice building, but would a classic like that fit into Edmonton's bland downtown?

does the McLeod?

the fed?

the leg?

obviously on a bit of a different scale here, but I would die for something of this legendary design here.

bigcitydude · #36 Posted **Nov 17, 2009, 3:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

does the McLeod?

the fed?

the leg?

obviously on a bit of a different scale here, but I would die for something of this legendary design here.

i would sure like to see a mini style, maybe 40 story copy of that here!

bigcitydude · #37 Posted **Nov 17, 2009, 3:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by 0773|=\

I don't mind bigcitydude's suggestion that a new building have glass, but not be so 'boxy'. It seems like heresy to suggest that here, but how about something like 225 South Sixth in Minneapolis? (We can always remove that 'crown' feature if people don't like that...)

Photo by Clue Master

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25738324@N00/451815006/

Come to think of it, The Edmontonian also covered all those bases... round, glass, unique by Edmonton standards... Sadly, it seems to be a dead proposal at this point.

i like the building, but, OMG, that crown is gross!! it would definetly have to go!!

(the tall, round building almost looks like the Stanley Cup doesn't it?)

deedub35 · #38 Posted **Nov 17, 2009, 5:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by bigcitydude

(the tall, round building almost looks like the Stanley Cup doesn't it?)

Which definitely means Edmonton won't get one. Our team can't win it. Our city can't build it.

kcantor · #39 Posted **Nov 17, 2009, 4:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by deedub35

Which definitely means Edmonton won't get one. Our team can't win it. Our city can't build it.

isn't that a play on the old calgary joke that was aired on cbc the other morning - you know, the one that asks why you can't get any coffee at the saddledome? with the answer of course being that all the mugs are on the ice and all the cups are in edmonton...

Inspector77 · #40 Posted **Nov 17, 2009, 4:48 PM**

^Hehe............