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Old Posted Sep 25, 2019, 6:25 AM
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The fight with Chaplin took place at the Club Petroushka, 7016 Hollywood Boulevard. It made the front pages of all the local newspapers on 23 Jan 1924.

It looks like the building survived.


GSV






Clipped from -

www.archive.org - Screenland - Apr-Sep 1924


Here's a text only version your article e_r.

archive.org - Taylorology - Issue 37 January 1996


Some more on the incident.

discoveringchaplin.com - Battle Of Petroushka

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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 2:54 AM
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Oh..that C. C. Julian. ...

Thanks Lorendoc and Noir Noir.

"C.C. Julian...a rogue of his day. Killed himself by drinking poison in Shanghai in '33. Penniless, alcoholic and on the run from the US Justive Department
for fraud."


GARY BAGE at discoveringchaplin

calisphere

" LAST PHOTO; C C Julian in Shanghai China, 9-14-35." ...(but wiki says he died in March of 1934)

Someone is obviously wrong unless they rickshawed his dead body around Shanghai for a year.





Besides OIL, it appears that he also owned a Los Angeles radio station. (KMTR)


tommydangcil

I'm surprised by this.

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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 4:30 AM
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Mystery location.


"Buddha Temple" gcah.org


Hmmm...so where was S. Savanna Street?




Here's some help.


LAPL





LAPL

ummm....I still can't figure it out....

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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 4:49 AM
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Mystery machine.

....Back when the economy of Los Angeles was chiefly agrarian.

rppc: Five Ladies, Two dogs, Steel Wheel 'Tractor', Los Angeles California 1909.



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Growing up in the Midwest..I have seen old steam engine tractors. (at the Hoopeston Sweetcorn Festival)

BUT..and it's a big but..I've never seen one with pullies and gears (or whatever those do-dads are called) like the one shown in this engimatic photograph.



Here's the reverse. note the Los Angeles postmark. (1909)


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Was the area around 917 W. 34th Place still rural in 1909?

......................................................................

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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 5:40 AM
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Mystery location.


"Buddha Temple" gcah.org


Hmmm...so where was S. Savanna Street?
It was in Boyle Heights. The 1921 Sanborn puts it at 209 S. Savannah:


lapl.org

The LADBS has a build date for the address as 1910.

Today S. Savannah has been vacated between 2nd and 4th streets and is the site of the Evergreen Recreational Center.



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It was in Boyle Heights. The 1921 Sanborn puts it at 209 S. Savannah:


lapl.org

The LADBS has a build date for the address as 1910.

Today S. Savannah has been vacated between 2nd and 4th streets and is the site of the Evergreen Recreational Center.



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Here's a bit more about that temple(in Note 3) from "Issei Buddhism in the Americas":

https://books.google.com/books?id=xF...s%20ca&f=false
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 9:35 AM
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Oh..that C. C. Julian. ...

Thanks Lorendoc and Noir Noir.

"C.C. Julian...a rogue of his day. Killed himself by drinking poison in Shanghai in '33. Penniless, alcoholic and on the run from the US Justive Department
for fraud."


GARY BAGE at discoveringchaplin

calisphere

" LAST PHOTO; C C Julian in Shanghai China, 9-14-35." ...(but wiki says he died in March of 1934)

Someone is obviously wrong unless they rickshawed his dead body around Shanghai for a year.





Besides OIL, it appears that he also owned a Los Angeles radio station. (KMTR)


tommydangcil

I'm surprised by this.

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Is the Hollywood storage (Bekins) building still there? If so, still being used for storage? Quite an imposing structure. The twin radio antennas probably took it well over 300', tall for the time.
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 10:24 AM
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Is the Hollywood storage (Bekins) building still there? If so, still being used for storage? Quite an imposing structure. The twin radio antennas probably took it well over 300', tall for the time.
Yup, it's still there on Highland.

via GSV

It's still used for storage, now as an Iron Mountain location.
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 11:58 PM
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re:..The Buddhist Temple on S. Savanna.

Thanks for the information Lorendoc and BillinGlendale.

fyi:..The early directories spell Savanna without the H...the later directories spell it Savannah, with the H.


Did you all notice the man sitting in the grass in from of the temple?


DETAIL...You can see the complete photograph HERE.

It's obvious the Japanese are trying to create a 'tree arch' by using tether cords. (if you look closely you can spot them). So how, exactly, is this suppose to work?

Do they plan to gradually manipulate (bonsai) the trees together?

Do we have a bonsai expert on the thread?
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Mystery machine.

....Back when the economy of Los Angeles was chiefly agrarian.

rppc: Five Ladies, Two dogs, Steel Wheel 'Tractor', Los Angeles California 1909.



eBay

Growing up in the Midwest..I have seen old steam engine tractors. (at the Hoopeston Sweetcorn Festival)

BUT..and it's a big but..I've never seen one with pullies and gears (or whatever those do-dads are called) like the one shown in this engimatic photograph.



Here's the reverse. note the Los Angeles postmark. (1909)


eBay

Was the area around 917 W. 34th Place still rural in 1909?

......................................................................

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E.R. - The ladies are sitting in what looks like an orange grove. Maybe the machine was used to drive between the trees and lift people up to pick oranges? Seems like quite an overkill when a ladder can do the job.

BTW - Could people actually read each others handwriting a hundred years ago? I could stare at some of these postcards for hours and not make it all out.

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Old Posted Sep 27, 2019, 12:21 AM
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Thanks FredH.

Maybe the contraption is an orange juice machine.






Thrifty truck ACCIDENT, Los Angeles Calif. [c.1952]


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This next slide isn't nearly as clear as the first two.. but it might shed some light on the accident.


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To me it looks like a simple case of the Thrifty truck being taller than the lowest branch.

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Harvey! His name was Harvey!

Look at this historical marker that’s been sitting at the southwest corner of Hollywood and Vine since 1953 – that’s 66 years, people! – to commemorate the beginnings of the city of Hollywood. Good idea. Great idea, in fact. Hip hip and hooray for Hollywood. But for gosh-darned sake, would it kill them to get the guy’s name right? It was Harvey Henderson Wilcox who founded Hollywood – not Horace! And his poor wife, Daeida, doesn’t even get mentioned. Apparently “and Mrs” is good enough. Do I really have to point out that Daeida was the one who came up with the name “Hollywood” in the first place?

Is there someone we can call to get this rectified???

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And "Vine" is from the fact that the street went through the (former?) vineyard of artist Paul de Longpre, who had a nice home and a few garden acres in earliest Hollywood.
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There is still a Buddhist Temple (Nichiren) on 4th by Saratoga, although I don't if it was the same establishment. If the older photo is of a Nichiren Temple then it likely is. It is very close to Savanah, but there are other Japanese Buddhist Temples and other Japanese churches in proximity as well.



[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;8698582]Mystery location.


"Buddha Temple" gcah.org
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odinthor is correct, of course.


As a reminder (and for newbies)..here is the de Longpre house in Hollywood.


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"The flower-covered grounds of the De Longpre estate were toured by as many as 8,000 people every month."


The article at Curbed Los Angeles is excellent. You can check it out HERE.

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[QUOTE=GatoVerde;8699687]There is still a Buddhist Temple (Nichiren) on 4th by Saratoga, although I don't if it was the same establishment. If the older photo is of a Nichiren Temple then it likely is. It is very close to Savanah, but there are other Japanese Buddhist Temples and other Japanese churches in proximity as well.



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Mystery location.


"Buddha Temple" gcah.org
E_R's photo corresponds to the 209 S. Savannah address - look at the Sanborn's depiction of the building's footprint: it shows a 3 story rectangular structure with a 2 story porch in front.
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2019, 5:14 AM
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[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;8699690]odinthor is correct, of course.


As a reminder (and for newbies)..here is the de Longpre house in Hollywood.


lacurbed

Someone who follows my Facebook page has pointed out that Daeida Wilcox did, in fact, get her own damned plaque, which even managed to spell her unusual name correctly!

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Between the time Paul de Longpré arrived in LA and his being lured to Hollywood by the Wilcoxes,
he rented a house that was on the site of the auto club. Read all about it here:
2601 S Figueroa Street

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Here's a truly intriguing 'mystery' roof-top garden. (complete with fountain) ....$44.95



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....note the skylight in the foreground.




Written on the reverse: "Lowe's Chinese Restaurant in L. A. (friend of Little Charlie)"



Did Lowe's really have a chinese restaurant with a roof garden..or is the Lowe's sign, visible at far right, actually across the street?




Does anyone recognize the dome?


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It doesn't appear to match the dome on the Warner Bros. downtown theater (previously the Pantages). . .or the dome on the Trinity Auditorium.

Maybe we could ask that guy in the window.

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Does anyone recognize the dome?


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It doesn't appear to match the dome on the Warner Bros. downtown theater (previously the Pantages). . .or the dome on the Trinity Auditorium.

Maybe we could ask that guy in the window.

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I'm not the guy in the window, but I think that's the Hillstreet(RKO)Theater's dome that was at 8th and Hill.

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