NEW YORK | 432 Park Avenue (Drake Hotel dev.) | (1,396) FT / 432 M | 89 FLOORS - Page 306

NYguy · #**6101** Posted **Jul 3, 2014, 11:49 AM**

^ God thinks that would be a good spot for another supertall...

https://twitter.com/KvanOosterom

Skyguy_7 · #**6102** Posted **Jul 3, 2014, 12:40 PM**

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^ Don't die yet. Still more to come...

^I didn't doubt you for a second. I'd love to see the lightning rod up close after a strike like that. Wow. Who do we talk to about mounting a GoPro up there for the next storm?

Slightly OT, and sorry to burst your bubble, but I believe this takes the cake. We win.

Hudson11 · #**6103** Posted **Jul 3, 2014, 2:05 PM**

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Brk9GWcCUAAhnxc.jpg

there's a video which comes along with that one. Earphone users be wary.

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NYguy · #**6104** Posted **Jul 3, 2014, 5:21 PM**

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Slightly OT, and sorry to burst your bubble, but I believe this takes the cake. We win.

I don't know what you win, but you've got some balls...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrlIhFdCUAA4t1v.jpg:large
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...ning-storm.jpg
http://static3.nydailynews.com/polop...orm-arthur.jpg

But I do love a summer storm, and hopefully won't get caught in one today.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/lightning-h...k-city-1455124

I'm sure 432 will get its share, as will the rest of the supertalls along 57th.

Onn · #**6105** Posted **Jul 3, 2014, 5:51 PM**

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^ God thinks that would be a good spot for another supertall...

Amen!

That's some crazy lightning you've got going on there. But all the buildings look great.

Surrealplaces · #**6106** Posted **Jul 3, 2014, 6:00 PM**

New York City by ILNY_, on Flickr

JayPro · #**6107** Posted **Jul 3, 2014, 6:14 PM**

The additions of 111W57th and 425 Park ^^^^ will ensure epic status for this pic.

EMArg · #**6108** Posted **Jul 4, 2014, 5:56 AM**

Video of the Park Avenue and Upper East Side. 432 can be seen in quite a few important shots:

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NYguy · #**6109** Posted **Jul 4, 2014, 1:17 PM**

They're back, and at it again...

http://www.mas.org/urbanplanning/accidental-skyline/

Accidental Skyline
Too often, New Yorkers are caught off guard by new development in their neighborhoods.
The Accidental Skyline offers tools to help demystify the city planning process and bring the public into the conversation.

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The maps above show where new development could occur across New York City – allowing New Yorkers to assess how their neighborhoods could be impacted. These maps add to a body of work available on this site, including The Accidental Skyline, presentations and media coverage. Additional reports will highlight how other cities are responding to these challenges.

MAS embarked on its Accidental Skyline initiative in 2013 in response to the super-tall towers rising along the southern border of Central Park. For the most part, these buildings are being built as-of-right, without public or environmental review. When completed, they will cast new shadows on the park and change views of the city. While MAS’s work started in response to the buildings near Central Park, the issue is one that increasingly concerns neighborhoods across the city. Many New Yorkers feel left out of the planning process and are unaware of development proposals until shovels hit the ground.

These slender, hyper tall buildings are a result of a hot real estate market driven by high demand for luxury condos and made possible by relatively recent advancements in building technologies. Because there has been no public process associated with these buildings, many New Yorkers were surprised when construction started. Growth is good for the city, but with development pressure high in many areas, projects should proceed in a thoughtful and transparent manner.

How do we fix it?

We have four main goals in this work:

1.Ensure robust civic engagement as the city develops and grows

2.Bring greater transparency to the city’s planning process

3.Highlight the impacts of development on NYC neighborhoods, including parks, open space, infrastructure and the skyline

4.Secure policy and regulatory changes that protect the city’s vital open spaces and create a better balance between benefits received by private developers and impact on the public realm

There are many regulatory and policy changes that could provide more transparency and pursue a more thoughtful approach to development:

Protecting parks from overdevelopment. The city could limit building height around parks, especially small parks, where one or two large buildings would greatly affect the amount of sunlight a park receives, or establish setback or design requirements that reduce shadows. Another option is having developers contribute to a park maintenance fund to offset impacts of development.

Alerting Community Boards and elected officials when zoning lot mergers occur. Right now local officials and Community Boards are not notified when developers assemble air rights, meaning that the process largely happens behind closed doors. A simple notification could bring more transparency to the process.

Requiring public review for zoning lot mergers above a certain threshold, and potentially even a higher level of review for very large transfers. There is a precedent for this in other areas of the city. For example, certain air rights transfers in the Theater District require approval by the City Planning Commission. The bigger the transfer, the higher the level of scrutiny.

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These people are determined to kill the real estate industry in the city, but I don't believe any of these measures will move beyond discussion. The city already has a long and complicated approvals process, and its trying to streamline that, make things better, not worse.

This isn't accurate, not just height, but some location is off...

Submariner · #**6110** Posted **Jul 4, 2014, 4:36 PM**

DeBlaiso appears to be as passionate as he claims about affordable housing (as misguided as I think his ideas are...) and he also appears to believe the key to affordable housing is growth (who would have thought, right?). Between that and the sheer amount of money involved with these projects, I don't see the NIMBY's gaining much traction here.

But they're annoying none the less.

Notyrview · #**6111** Posted **Jul 4, 2014, 10:36 PM**

Yeah totally, giving the middle class a chance to have a home is misguided.

kalifese · #**6112** Posted **Jul 4, 2014, 10:50 PM**

NEW YORK CITY IS THE BEST CITY IN DA WOOORRLLDD!!!!

599GTO · #**6113** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 4:24 AM**

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Yeah totally, giving the middle class a chance to have a home is misguided.

Lots of affordable housing in the Bronx and Staten Island.

Perklol · #**6114** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 4:48 AM**

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Alerting Community Boards and elected officials when zoning lot mergers occur. Right now local officials and Community Boards are not notified when developers assemble air rights, meaning that the process largely happens behind closed doors. A simple notification could bring more transparency to the process.

BrownTown · #**6115** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 7:49 AM**

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Yeah totally, giving the middle class a chance to have a home is misguided.

There's a difference between having a home and having a home in MANHATTAN. I always think it's silly when my friends who have decent jobs talk about how they can't move out from their parents because it costs too much money. There are plenty of other places to live in this country that don't cost an arm and a leg. It's silly for people to expect to get all the benefits of living in a place like Manhattan without paying extra for it just like it's silly for people to suggest affordable units should have access to the same amenities as luxury ones or be placed on the same floors etc.

nyc7 · #**6116** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 3:53 PM**

432 making an impact on the overall skyline...Photo from 25 miles out near Wayne, NJ

QUEENSNYMAN · #**6117** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 5:02 PM**

Very nice nyc7!

NYguy · #**6118** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 5:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Submariner

DeBlaiso appears to be as passionate as he claims about affordable housing (as misguided as I think his ideas are...) and he also appears to believe the key to affordable housing
is growth (who would have thought, right?). Between that and the sheer amount of money involved with these projects, I don't see the NIMBY's gaining much traction here.

I agree, there's nothing misguided about trying to ensure that New Yorkers can afford to have a place to live, but that's neither here nor there. The topic at hand is whether or not
the NIMBYs should have more direct control over these developments which are currently being built as-of-right. And given how they like to bog down the approvals process
with demands, that would be a very bad idea.

But, the City is currently trying to make the approvals process easier, (not that everything will be approved outright).

July 5, 2014

QUEENSNYMAN · #**6119** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 7:40 PM**

Here is my latest video from Breezy Point, Queens which also shows (OFF TOPIC) One World Trade Center,

By: QUEENSNY121

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tbS...ature=youtu.be

sw5710 · #**6120** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 9:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by QUEENSNYMAN

Here is my latest video from Breezy Point, Queens which also shows (OFF TOPIC) One World Trade Center,

By: QUEENSNY121

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tbS...ature=youtu.be

Thanks for you're videos! Yes the core is up to the 72nd apparent level at 1,116' above the lobby. The perimeter is on the 70th apparent level at 1,085'