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Old Posted Feb 8, 2024, 1:44 AM
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Don't know if low-floor heavy metro would solve the issue. The sensitivity of the doors seems to have been corrected but the issue that persists is the narrow aisle where the wheel/bogie assembly intrudes into the cabin space. This makes it difficult to get around the cabin and get to the doors when it gets busy (this issue is compounded by Ottawans' lack of spatial awareness, reluctance to take off their backpacks on the train, and overly large personal space bubbles).

That being said, dwell times are still far too long. There is a solid 10-15+ seconds of minimal boarding/disembarkment before the doors finally close at most stations.
People will use the time they are given. If they have time to wait until the train stops before getting up, that’s what they will do. If they start missing their stop by doing that (or close to it) they will charge their behaviour.
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2024, 10:15 AM
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People will use the time they are given. If they have time to wait until the train stops before getting up, that’s what they will do. If they start missing their stop by doing that (or close to it) they will charge their behaviour.
Hopefully that's the case, but maybe people will just go back to holding the doors open if they feel they haven't had enough time to gather their belongings and have a big stretch before moseying on over to the exit.

In any case, shorten the dwell times. They're far too long and I don't think anyone is convinced otherwise.
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Are fixed dwell times a general best practice? It seems like in most places I have taken transit the dwell times have varied. Certainly for a station like Tremblay the needed dwell time would vary depending on whether a train has recently arrived. I thought that was one of the purposes of the door opening buttons that they don't use.
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Dwell times are controlled by the train ahead on the line. So, it may be more of a challenge to implement variable dwell times depending on traffic volumes at each station. However, it should be possible to have shorter dwell times across the board during off-peak hours.

Ultimately, we have to shorten travel times, which may make it possible to improve frequency without increasing the number of trains in service.
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2024, 3:08 PM
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O-Train service affected in east end due to 'sparking' issue on power lines

Staff Reporter, Ottawa Citizen
Published Feb 10, 2024 • Last updated 37 minutes ago • 1 minute read


O-Train service will be reduced in the east end Saturday after “sparking” was spotted Friday night on a catenary support pole.

“At approximately 11:30 p.m., an OC Transpo rail operator observed sparks coming from an overhead catenary system support pole west of Cyrville Station,” transit boss Renée Amilcar wrote in a message Saturday to Mayor Mark Sutcliffe and council.

“Initial observations indicated damage to an insulator that is part of the overhead catenary system.”

For the remainder of Friday service, R1 buses were used between St-Laurent and Blair stations.

As of Saturday morning, Transpo said Line 1 trains will run as normal between Tunney’s Pasture and St-Laurent station.

However, trains in both directions will alternate on a single track between St-Laurent and Blair stations.

“The plan is to repair the insulator during the maintenance hours after the end of service on Saturday,” Amilcar said.

Crews will be mobilized through Saturday to investigate the issue.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...on-power-lines
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2024, 3:19 PM
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Weekend service is a low priority, so it takes a full day to make the repairs.
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At this point it surely can’t be a coincidence that issues primarily happen in the eastern part of the line, right? I can’t count the number of times I’ve taken the Line 1 with service unaffected in the western segment while there’s single track service or R1 is running in the east.
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At this point it surely can’t be a coincidence that issues primarily happen in the eastern part of the line, right? I can’t count the number of times I’ve taken the Line 1 with service unaffected in the western segment while there’s single track service or R1 is running in the east.
There was thunder and lightning last evening while that rain moved through... maybe the catenary took a hit?
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2024, 7:28 AM
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There was thunder and lightning last evening while that rain moved through... maybe the catenary took a hit?
Could be. Either way everything seemed fine when I rode til Blair around noon Sunday
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2024, 3:11 PM
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O-Train back on track Sunday, final fixes to come: Amilcar

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Published Feb 11, 2024 • Last updated 20 hours ago • 1 minute read


Full O-Train service launched with seven trains Sunday morning after experts worked through the night to determine the cause of a “sparking” problem on a power support pole in the city’s east end.

The problems began when sparks were observed coming from a power box along the overhead catenary system, the electrical feed that powers the trains, near Cyrville Station

Transit boss Renée Amilcar said in an earlier Saturday memo that OC Transpo rail operator had observed “sparks” from an overhead catenary system support pole between St-Laurent and Cyrville stations at about 11:30 p.m. on Friday.

The catenary system supplies power to the trains along the track.

On Saturday, passengers had to change trains at St. Laurent Station, and all service was moved to a single track in order to isolate the damaged site near of Cyrville Station.

Late Saturday, Transpo implemented R1 bus service between St. Laurent and Blair stations to isolate the trouble spot and allow Rideau Transit Maintenance to investigate further.

“Our Transit Engineering team will work closely with RTG (Rideau Transit Group) and with TRA (consultants Transportation Resource Associates) to complete a thorough assessment of the affected infrastructure and to schedule the necessary repairs to permanently resolve the issue and allow the temporary isolation to be removed,” Transit boss Renée Amilcar said in an update to city council Sunday.

“A full investigation into the causes of this incident will continue to ensure that appropriate mitigations are in place,” Amilcar wrote.

Amilcar said “additional details and updates” will be brought to the next Transit Commission in March and Transpo will “ensure that representatives from RTG and TRA are in attendance to help respond to any questions.”

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...o-come-amilcar
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2024, 6:22 PM
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Stopped LRT train leads to 'confusing mess' for passengers Wednesday

Marlo Glass, Ottawa Citizen
Published Feb 14, 2024 • Last updated 8 minutes ago • 2 minute read


O-Train service has initiated ‘R1’ replacement bus service between Rideau and Hurdman stations downtown due to a “stopped train” on the line.

Trains continued to run in both directions between Tunney’s Pasture and uOttawa stations and between Blair and Hurdman stops, Transpo said.

University of Ottawa student Anna Schubert said her train had just passed Lees station around 9:49 a.m. when it “hit a bump,” lost power, and ground to a halt.

She and her roommate, also a university student, waited on the stopped bus for about 45 minutes before the doors were opened and the bus was evacuated.

Schubert was late for a Valentine’s Day brunch, while her roommate missed 50 minutes of a class.

“There was no heat on the train, so it got pretty cold,” Schubert said outside the U Ottawa train station. “They did try to get the power started a couple of times on the train, and they got it on but it didn’t stay on.”

Wednesday morning was the first time Schubert had experienced a train stoppage, and called it an inconvenience, noting it was about -16 C with the windchill.

Meanwhile, a woman named Sara, who declined to give her last name, was among the hundreds of passengers scrambling to get on a bus at Hurdman station. She was heading downtown on her daily commute, but given the chaos, she expected to be late for her shift at the National Defence headquarters.

Sara said she got on the train at Blair station around 11 a.m. and “it was packed, which was unusual for the time of day.”

Passengers were told the train was delayed “due to a technical difficulty,” but no further details were given, she said.

The train began to move, then abruptly hit the brakes, causing some passengers to knock into each other, she said.

The train ran from Blair to Cyrville station, she said, where the train then turned around and took them back to Blair. When she eventually boarded again, passengers were told the R1 buses were waiting for them at Hurdman station, but some passengers were directed to the wrong stop.

“It’s just a whole confusing mess,” she said. “None of the passengers have been told what the technical difficulty in question is.”

Earlier, Transpo said Confederation Line trains were alternating in both directions on a single track between Hurdman, Lees and uOttawa stations. Passengers were advised to use the eastbound platform for service.

“Please listen to on-board and station announcements for more information,” the agency said on X, formerly Twitter.

There was no immediate information on the nature of the problem or when full service might return.

More to come…

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...-stopped-train
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2024, 6:38 PM
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Power problem closes part of Confederation Line
No trains running through Lees and uOttawa stations, R1 buses taking their place

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Posted: Feb 14, 2024 10:53 AM EST | Last Updated: 1 hour ago


OC Transpo says another problem with the power system has closed a section of the Confederation Line near the east end of the LRT tunnel.

Replacement buses are now in service between Rideau and Hurdman stations.

The first alert about the problem came around 10:10 a.m. Wednesday. CBC received reports of busy trains sitting at light rail stations, some of which hadn't moved for several minutes.

The announcement about R1 replacement buses, which serve train stations when trains aren't running as normal, came shortly before 11 a.m.

Trains are running between Tunney's Pasture and Rideau stations to the west, and between Blair and Hurdman stations to its east.

"Initial reports from Rideau Transit Maintenance (RTM) indicate that a gouge on the overhead catenary system was found near Lees Station," wrote transit services general manager Renée Amilcar in a memo just before noon.

"Repairs are currently underway and service on both tracks is anticipated to resume later this afternoon.

Part of the line closed this past weekend because of an overhead power problem.

A buildup of dirt and grit caused electrical issues on New Year's Eve in 2020. Ice buildup during a January 2023 ice storm caused sparks, flashing, and ultimately a partial shutdown that lasted several days.

A 2022 public inquiry found the Confederation Line was rushed into service to open in September 2019. It's faced multiple challenges since then, including chronic axle problems that have caused derailments.

Ridership for OC Transpo as a whole also hasn't rebounded to the same levels as other major cities, leaving the service having to come up with tens of millions of dollars to cover the fact it's fallen short of projections.

As well, rail expansion to the east, west and south was originally supposed to be all done by last year, as former Ottawa mayor Jim Watson told reporters in 2013.

None of those new lines have opened yet, however.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...form-1.7114913

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