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800+ ft. in subsequent phases would certainly be nice, and would potentially give the Brooklyn skyline a much more interesting profile.

We'll see.
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Slow Start Spurs Shift for Towers Near Arena
By CHARLES V BAGLIAPRIL 18, 2014

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The first residential tower at the sprawling Atlantic Yards development near Downtown Brooklyn rises only five of its intended 32 floors nearly a year and a half after construction started, making it one of the slowest-moving projects in a city with an unquenchable thirst for housing.

The building is supposed to be a groundbreaking achievement in construction. Nearly two years ago, Forest City Ratner, the developer of Atlantic Yards, said it had “cracked the code” for prefabricated construction, allowing it to erect the world’s tallest modular building at great speed and providing a template for how to better create affordable housing. Increasing affordable housing is a signature priority of Mayor Bill de Blasio.

Forest City has been working on the 22-acre site for 10 years, but so far the only completed structure is the $1 billion Barclays Center arena.

Now the developer is completing a deal to bring in a Chinese partner and the company says it will accelerate construction and will start work later this year on three additional buildings, comprising over 900 apartments.

But the three new residential towers would be built conventionally, not with the pathbreaking modular, or prefabricated, system that Forest City had said would provide quick delivery and millions of dollars in savings.

The developer’s new partner, Greenland Holding Group, which is buying a majority stake in the development, is eager to build quickly in Brooklyn’s booming market. Indeed, its executives have said they want to complete Atlantic Yards within eight years. But real estate executives said the Chinese company was not persuaded that the modular construction was preferable.

Forest City executives said for the first time that they had trouble working out all the kinks at the factory in the nearby Navy Yard, where 145 workers transform tubular steel chassis into fully equipped apartments. The chassis are transported to the construction site, where they are lifted and stacked into place onto the building, known as B2.

“With our newly formed Greenland partnership we want to go vertical and build expeditiously,” said MaryAnne Gilmartin, the chief executive of Forest City Ratner. “So while we work to prove out modular on B2, we will launch three new buildings using conventional construction.”

So far, the developer has installed 122 of the 930 modules that make up B2. Half of the 363 apartments are intended for low- and moderate-income tenants. But the completion date has been moved to late 2015, Ms. Gilmartin said, which is more than a year behind the original schedule.

In recent days, Ms. Gilmartin has met with Alicia Glen, the deputy mayor for housing and economic development, to talk about the next three buildings and the possibility of additional housing subsidies for apartments for poor and working-class families.

“We’re going to drive a tough but fair bargain so we can get this project moving,” Ms. Glen said. “We’re not happy about the pace of construction. But we think that modular is something we should continue to pursue across the city.”

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One rental tower will be erected next to B2. A second rental building will be on the eastern end of the site, next to a planned condominium.

Little has gone according to plan at Atlantic Yards since it was conceived in 2004, when Bruce C. Ratner of Forest City bought the Nets with the intention of moving the basketball team to a new home in Brooklyn that would be the centerpiece of a large residential development.

Mr. Ratner’s ambitious development plan called for an 18,000-seat arena at the intersection of Flatbush and Atlantic Avenues, a park, an office tower or hotel, and 14 residential buildings with over 6,000 apartments, including 2,250 for low-, moderate- and middle-income families. The city and state provided hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies.

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James Garrison, an architect who has designed smaller modular projects, said Forest City was engaged in a “noble experiment” with prefabricated high-rises. “With any innovation comes risk,” he said. “Evolution is always necessary. If it’s going to be successful they have to continue.”

Forest City executives acknowledged that B2, at least, would cost more than a conventionally built tower. With a pipeline of 14 residential buildings at Atlantic Yards, the developer could justify establishing a factory. Presumably, each successive high-rise would be built more efficiently. But at the very least, the decision to build the next three towers conventionally interrupts the learning curve.

With its development costs rising rapidly, Forest City has sought in recent years to sell parts of the sprawling development, including a majority stake in the Nets and a smaller stake in the Barclays Center, to various partners in order to raise capital and spread the risks.

Forest City agreed to sell a 70 percent stake in Atlantic Yards (excluding Barclays Center and B2) for about $200 million to Greenland. As a result, Forest City had to reduce the value of its $527.4 million investment in the project by about 45 percent.

The joint venture will be overseen by a board with five members, three appointed by Greenland and two by Forest City. Ms. Gilmartin said, though, that the two companies had equal say over key issues: architects, contractors, unit mix, scheduling and community relations.

As for the slow-moving tower, Ms. Gilmartin said, “It’s been terribly frustrating. But I don’t think this is a referendum on modular. The best way to prove that this works is to build B2.”

“And,” she added, “I hope that the fifth building will be modular.”

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Old Posted Apr 19, 2014, 6:03 PM
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Any time a Chinese developer gets involved projects seem to move quicker. We Americans could learn something about building quicker from the Chinese. Although a year behind schedule isn't really good. Eh, we'll see if it speeds up or not.
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The developer’s new partner, Greenland Holding Group, which is buying a majority stake in the development, is eager to build quickly in Brooklyn’s booming market. Indeed, its executives have said they want to complete Atlantic Yards within eight years.
I trust, then, that we can expect plenty of uninspired value-engineered designs?
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^ LoL. Your comment reminds me of the scene from Back to the Future III when the Doc makes a derogatory comment about the qualify of Japanese electronics, in which Marty McFly responds with "What do you mean, Doc. All the best stuff is made in Japan."

This modular style of construction is the ultimate in value engineering. It's the cheapest of the cheap. I view the involvement of the Chinese firm as a major benefit to the project. As someone said earlier, they will get things done quickly. Let's hope to push for this rumored 80-storey tower rather than the timid shit we have planned now.
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^This modular style of construction is the ultimate in value engineering. It's the cheapest of the cheap.
This definitely isn't true. The first building costs far more than a conventionally built tower.

The cost savings was based on a long-term outlook of being the first modular highrise developer in the world.

And the Chinese partners want to go conventional construction because it's cheaper, at least in the short term.
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Atlantic Yards Report:

On eve of hearing, Forest City discloses plan to accelerate elements of platform construction, delay permanent railyard

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With a public hearing on the Draft Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement (Draft SEIS) coming Wednesday, developer Forest City Ratner has suggested that it can accelerate building of the platform needed for vertical development over the Vanderbilt Yard--but it does not provide a firm timetable and also asks for 15 months' delay in the required completion of a permanent railyard.

A letter from Forest City Ratner CEO MaryAnne Gilmartin to Empire State Development (ESD) President Kenneth Adams was posted today on the ESD's Atlantic Yards site and is reproduced below.

Accelerating certain work

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As a result of our recent partnership with the Greenland Group, Atlantic Rail Yards, LLC (ARY) will be in the position to accelerate the construction of certain platform and building and foundation work, which, if done concurrently with the construction of the yard, would have several benefits. It would accelerate our ability to complete the construction of the platform over the yard. It would reduce the overall duration of construction within the yard, and it would minimize the disruption in the yard for the construction of the platform following the completion of the yard.
The letter does not estimate exactly how much time would be saved, how much of the necessary work would be completed, or when the platform would be built.

Forest City has until 2025 to start the platform, which is needed to construct six towers over the below-grade railyard, the clearest example of the blight the project was supposed to remove.

This would represent an earlier start--but it also could portend a further renegotiation later on.

Short decision time, delayed railyard

In building the arena on the western segment of the Vanderbilt Yard, Forest City had to create a 42-car temporary railyard to the east, so Long Island Rail Road trains could be cleaned and maintained.

A larger permanent railyard, with capacity for 56 cars (though it was supposed to be bigger), is supposed to be finished by 9/1/16. Forest City twice got the MTA to push back the deadline to formally start the permanent railyard and post the completion guaranty for the work. The current deadline to post that guarantee, 6/30/14, would remain under Forest City's proposal.

But Forest City wants an extension of the deadline to finish the permanent railyard to 12/1/17.

MTA posture

Forest City's proposal will be presented for consideration at the MTA Board’s June 25 meeting.

I suspect that the agency will be amenable to the change. First, it's controlled by the governor. Also, the new railyard is needed to facilitate East Side Access: service to Grand Central Station, with Atlantic Avenue to Jamaica trains as a shuttle service.

As of 2012, the MTA had been predicting 2016 as the start date for East Side Access; hence the requirement, in the 2009 revision of the Vanderbilt Yard deal, for the railyard to be finished by 2016. The start date for East Side Access has been pushed back; it will be ready no earlier than 2020 (see p. 25 here).

Entire letter: FCR Letter To Ken Adams 4-28-14
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I trust, then, that we can expect plenty of uninspired value-engineered designs?
Greenland doesn't mess around. They've built the Nanjing Greenland Center, and are currently building the 636m Wuhan Greenland Center and 486m Chengdu Greenland Center, which are most assuredly NOT value engineered designs.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjin...nancial_Center


http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/wuha...enland-center/


http://www.design-calendar.com/2013/...with-ovi-asgg/

While I have no doubt that Greenland will be a good fit in accelerating construction of the Yards, i was originally hoping that the rumored Chinese firm getting involved was Broad Group, which has some experience rapidly erecting prefabricated towers(30 floors in 2 weeks).

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Architects Imagine an Ideal Atlantic Yards



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Five architecture teams have reimagined Forest City Ratner’s controversial plan for Atlantic Yards with creative and cutting-edge designs for an exhibit opening next month at a Prospect Heights gallery. Each proposal had to incorporate 4,728,000 square feet of housing, 156,000 square feet of retail, and 1,234 parking spaces — numbers drawn from FCR’s master plan. The architects hope to spark a public debate and find a more contextual, less problematic way to develop the site.

OperA Studio designed a futuristic, twisting structure (pictured) where angled planes meet to create lots of public green space on top of the buildings. It links the high-rise residential towers with ground-floor commercial space, the Barclays Center and the Atlantic Terminal Mall. Then Amoia Cody Architecture takes on the problem of private green space with tetris-like “vertical lots” that include a terrace “yard” for each floor.

In a plan called “Quilted City,” Joshua Zinder Architecture examines how “layering” high-rise apartment towers around the Barclays Center and a relocated Atlantic Terminal could create several public spaces. And a fourth series of renderings from Matthias Altwicker and Farzana Gandhi envisions eight-story, movable blocks in a huge grid. Essentially, the blocks could become commercial, housing or manufacturing space, depending on the need. The fifth proposal, from David Cunningham Architecture Planning, isn’t described on the exhibit’s website.
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Atlantic Yards Report:

Eminent domain, round two: state and Forest City close-mouthed as condemnation process begins for properties near arena site
Monday, June 09, 2014


Three houses destined for condemnation; photo by AYR

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The eminent domain hammer is on its way--again.

Still, Empire State Development (ESD), the state agency overseeing/shepherding Atlantic Yards, and developer Forest City Ratner are close-mouthed and not fully candid about the second--but not quite final--round of eminent domain.

The state recently has begun the condemnation process for three homes and three businesses across Sixth Avenue from the arena, between Dean Street in Atlantic Avenue.

Eminent domain has already been approved; the issue now is compensation and possession, so the first step is asking property owners to accept a visit by an appraiser, a prelude to an offer, which later can be litigated.


Why now?

The reason for condemnation, according to ESD, is to facilitate work at the railyard and also construction of the 272-foot B15 tower between Pacific and Dean streets east of Sixth Avenue.

But only the railyard work has a schedule.

As for when the tower will be built--who knows? There are several already-cleared sites available for construction, on both the arena block and also the southeast block, now used for interim surface parking.

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The key to the next phase of Atlantic Yards is Forest City's recent partnership with Greenland USA, a subsidiary of Chinese development firm Greenland Holding Group. The two companies officially sealed the deal at the end of June, the same time they announced a much speedier timeline for the full project build-out. The developer must produce 2,250 units of affordable housing by 2025 or else risk a $5 million fine. As such, the next of the 15 buildings to go into the ground will be 100 percent affordable. Greenland has developed many mixed-use and affordable projects in China, and I-Fei Chang, CEO and President of Greenland US, stressed that they believe a variety of incomes is "what makes a city successful." The affordable units will be available to families making a range of incomes, from $48,000 or less and up to $104,000.
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Greenland Forest City Partners, the official name of the joint development, hired the sustainable building experts at COOKFOX to design the next two buildings, which will sit beside a new park. The first building to to begin work will be 535 Carlton Avenue. Thankfully, the rebranding also drops the completely confusing "B" numbering system and gives the buildings real addresses, a fact that COOKFOX partner Rick Cook said was "extremely important" to his studio. "We want these to be urban buildings, not towers in a park. If the address is on Carlton Avenue, the building entrance will be on Carlton Avenue."

535 Carlton sits at the corner of Dean Street, and it will break ground by December of this year. The 285,000-square-foot building will rise 18 stories and hold 298 rental units, ranging from studios to three bedrooms. COOKFOX wanted a seamless transition from the townhouses of Prospect Heights to the tower, so to meet the surrounding neighborhood, the building's base will rise 60 feet and be made of brown brick, a material familiar to Brooklyn townhouses. There will be another setback around 85 feet that will hold a communal terrace with gardening plots. "We made this space purposefully low so you can connect to the neighborhood," said Cook. The site is currently occupied by a building that will be demolished and a surface parking lot.
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550 Vanderbilt Avenue, a market-rate condo building also designed by COOKFOX, will sit at the eastern end of the block on Dean Street. It will be of similar size and design, but the buildings will not mirror each other. Work will begin on 550 Vanderbilt shortly after ground breaks on 535 Carlton, and it will hold 275 homes, from studios to four-bedrooms. Though there will be less units, 550 Vanderbilt will be larger than its western sister, measuring 330,000 square feet. Both buildings will have a variety of layouts, and marketing for the units will start about 18 months after the groundbreaking, so mark your calendars for June 2016.
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All of the new buildings fit within the Frank Gehry-designed masterplan, and when complete, the whole shebang will have 6,430 units of housing spread out over 6 million square feet. There will also be 247,000 square feet of retail (all small spaces, no big box stores), and at least 336,000 square feet of commercial space; the plan allows a variation that could create up to 1.6 million square feet of commercial. While all 2,250 units of affordable housing must be delivered by 2025, 10 years sooner than under the original timeline, Forest City and Greenland believe that the entire project will be built-out by 2025, too. So the neighbors better get ready for a lot of construction.

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CookFox is good and I like that they're trying to make these urban buildings and not towers in the park.
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So does this mean no more modular towers?
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Great news. I'm sure they'll stick with their timetable. The same cannot be said for the former partners involved.
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So does this mean no more modular towers?
They said they want to continue to use the modular system

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But Forest City isn't giving up on modular. "It is my great hope that we will use it again in Pacific Park," said Gilmartin, but she also noted that "it's an ongoing experiment" that "needs to be validated with a standing building." She added, "it would be shortsighted to launch more right now." That said, Forest City made a serious investment in the technology, forming a partnership with engineering firm Skanska and creating a modular factory in the Brooklyn Navy Yard.
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Permits Filed for Third Tower at Atlantic Yards

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Forest City Ratner has filed new building applications for a third, conventionally built building at 540 Vanderbilt Avenue. The development comes hot on the heels of filings for a second new building, 535 Carlton Avenue, the state’s plans to seize seven Atlantic Yards properties under eminent domain, and lawsuits over the first tower, B2.

The complex between Pacific and Dean Streets will rise 17 stories and house 282 units. Designed by Cook+Fox, the project will include 326,047 square feet of residential space and 4,731 square feet of ground floor retail.

Although permits say 540 Vanderbilt, the development’s official address will eventually be known as 550 Vanderbilt Avenue. The whole building will be market-rate condos, as previously reported. There will also be a pool, locker rooms, a shared library, common roof terrace and 198 bike storage spots.

Construction of the first, modular B2 tower at 416 Dean Street came to a screeching halt not long after Forest City rebranded the entire 22-acre megaproject “Pacific Park” last month.
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In response to the post above: Moving forward with eminent domain:
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State gets approval to seize Atlantic Yard sites



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The Empire State Development Corporation received the go-ahead yesterday to seize several buildings through eminent domain to make way for a portion of Forest City Ratner’s Atlantic Yards project, recently renamed Pacific Park Brooklyn.

Brooklyn Supreme Court Justice Wayne Saitta approved ESDC’s plan to take the titles for seven properties along Atlantic and 6th avenues and Dean Street in Prospect Heights, DNAinfo reported. StorageMart, which operates a storage facility at one of the properties, announced on its blog that the state has given tenants 90 days to empty their units.

An attorney for the ESDC told DNAinfo that the building owners have two years to either accept or dispute the state’s buyout offers, the details of which were not made public. During the hearing, one of the attorneys said, “so far we haven’t had any opposition,” referring to the landlords, the news site reported.
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Renderings Revealed for Next Market-Rate Pacific Park Tower



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The next two towers in the Pacific Park (née Atlantic Yards) megaproject are being designed by the architects at COOKFOX, and the first to go up will be the 100 percent affordable 535 Carlton Avenue. (The developers need to build 2,250 units of affordable housing by 2025 or risk a $5 million fine.) The second and slightly larger of the two is the market-rate 550 Vanderbilt Avenue and that building just revealed some new renderings, showing off its COOKFOX-y design. The 17-story tower will contain 275 units, ranging in size from studios to three-bedrooms, contained behind a facade of masonry and precast concrete, representing, in the words of NY YIMBY, "a gradual aesthetic transition towards the more modernist SHoP towers of the western end of the site and in downtown Brooklyn proper." Construction is expected to start by the end of this year, but we'll see about that — so far, developer Forest City Ratner hasn't exactly been great about meeting its own deadlines, but with new partner Greenland Holding Group on board, things are supposed to be speeding up.
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