Rideau Street Renewal - Page 2

acottawa · #21 Posted **Jun 22, 2019, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by osirisboy

You think a major retail street having curb side parking is "embarrassing"? Ugh

Rideau is not a major retail street.

Also I am struggling to think of a city with a major retail street with curbside parking.

jchamoun79 · #22 Posted **Jun 22, 2019, 11:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Urbanarchit

Rideau should have been narrowed and with a segregated bike lane instead of dangerous sharrows, have much wider sidewalks with nice street furniture and vegetation/ trees, and rebuilt this street as a great example of urban design.

Anything nice on Rideau would be trashed in no time.

lrt's friend · #23 Posted **Jun 23, 2019, 12:11 AM**

Although I am not a big fan in general, a street tramway on Rideau would rejuvenate the street over its entire length.

Urbanarchit · #24 Posted **Jun 23, 2019, 12:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by jchamoun79

Anything nice on Rideau would be trashed in no time.

Should we just abandon the street then and poop all over it in the off chance things might be vandalized?

Has William Street and Nicholas Street pedestrian plazas been trashed? I think that if we treat Rideau Street as an important street we care about, rather than what it was before as a major bus stop with a sketchy McDonald's, a surface parking lot and no retail fronts. Now, we have wider sidewalks, stores in the mall have entrances on Rideau, Ogilvie was beautiful renovated, there's an LRT Station. I think nicely remaking Rideau as a destination you'd want to walk along and spend time on would change the previous sketchiness.

j.graham · #25 Posted **Jun 23, 2019, 12:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by osirisboy

You think a major retail street having curb side parking is "embarrassing"? Ugh

Letting 10-15 people park slightly closer to Rideau is not better than having cycling infrastructure, transit, or wider sidewalks.

acottawa · #26 Posted **Jun 23, 2019, 12:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by Urbanarchit

Should we just abandon the street then and poop all over it in the off chance things might be vandalized?

Has William Street and Nicholas Street pedestrian plazas been trashed? I think that if we treat Rideau Street as an important street we care about, rather than what it was before as a major bus stop with a sketchy McDonald's, a surface parking lot and no retail fronts. Now, we have wider sidewalks, stores in the mall have entrances on Rideau, Ogilvie was beautiful renovated, there's an LRT Station. I think nicely remaking Rideau as a destination you'd want to walk along and spend time on would change the previous sketchiness.

It all depends on law enforcement. Regardless of street furniture existing laws and bylaws need to be enforced.

Acajack · #27 Posted **Jun 23, 2019, 1:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by acottawa

Rideau is not a major retail street.

Also I am struggling to think of a city with a major retail street with curbside parking.

Ste-Catherine?

roger1818 · #28 Posted **Jun 23, 2019, 3:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Ste-Catherine?

I was thinking the same thing. There is also Robson St in Vancouver.

Having said that, I don’t see the need for street parking in front of the Rideau Centre. Some stopping bays for picking up and dropping off people makes sense though.

acottawa · #29 Posted **Jun 23, 2019, 12:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Ste-Catherine?

Yeah you’re right, although to me that seems like a holdover from a time when the street had more lanes. If they were rebuilding the street would parking be part of the plan?

acottawa · #30 Posted **Jun 23, 2019, 12:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by roger1818

I was thinking the same thing. There is also Robson St in Vancouver.

Having said that, I don’t see the need for street parking in front of the Rideau Centre. Some stopping bays for picking up and dropping off people makes sense though.

Robson is a 4 lane street with parking off peak. There is no permanent parking infrastructure as is being proposed on Rideau.

Urbanarchit · #31 Posted **Jun 23, 2019, 7:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by acottawa

Yeah you’re right, although to me that seems like a holdover from a time when the street had more lanes. If they were rebuilding the street would parking be part of the plan?

From what I understand, they plan to get rid of parking on Ste-Catherine now from Atwater to Bleury, with a good portion of the strip being one lane wide.

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Truenorth00 · #32 Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 1:08 PM**

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waterloowarrior · #33 Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 1:10 PM**

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Gat-Train · #34 Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 6:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by jchamoun79

Anything nice on Rideau would be trashed in no time.

Security cameras and harsher enforcement of laws will fix that in no time.

Uhuniau · #35 Posted **Jun 26, 2019, 3:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

Why are we prioritizing cycle tracks on our key transit routes? Especially when a parallel street is available. The Confederation Line cannot do everything for everybody.

And why are we creating yet another two-lane pinchpoint for bus transit operations in the city core?

Queen Street isn't enough of a fustercluck?

UrbOttawa · #36 Posted **Jul 9, 2019, 11:40 PM**

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rocketphish · #37 Posted **Jul 10, 2019, 2:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by UrbOttawa

source

You can't specify a PDF file when linking to an image. You need to take a screenshot of the PDF page and upload it to an image hosting site, like imgur.com, then link to that.

https://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/de...eau_pg6_en.pdf

https://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/de...iam_vis_en.pdf

Uhuniau · #38 Posted **Jul 10, 2019, 2:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Urbanarchit

Should we just abandon the street then and poop all over it in the off chance things might be vandalized?

To be fair, I haven't seen anyone pooping on Rideau Street since 2012.

TransitZilla · #39 Posted **Jul 10, 2019, 5:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by rocketphish

You can't specify a PDF file when linking to an image. You need to take a screenshot of the PDF page and upload it to an image hosting site, like imgur.com, then link to that.

https://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/de...eau_pg6_en.pdf

https://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/de...iam_vis_en.pdf

William looks pretty nice. Would be nice if they could add more bike parking.

Hopefully something will be done to improve Rideau- delete or shrink the amount of "flex space" on the north side and put in a 2-way cycle track instead, from Sussex to William.

If it's not on Rideau, the only other place that a connection from the Wellington cycling facilities to the Market could be provided is along Sussex, and I don't think there is enough room on Sussex between Rideau and George Streets.

J.OT13 · #40 Posted **Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM**

Disappointed they removed the water feature at Rideau and William, well the half that was left.