The Largest Cities in The South (southeast)

[TampAGS]

Originally Posted by urbanscraper

Here are the top 13 as far as population goes:

1 Jacksonville 794,555
2 Charlotte 716,874
3 Memphis 680,902
4 Nashville 590,807
5 Louisville 558,541
6 Atlanta 519,145
7 Virginia Beach 435,619
8 Miami 408,991
9 Raleigh 356,321
10 Tampa 332,888
11 Lexington-lafayette Co, Ky 272,000
12 Greensboro 259,000
13 Norfolk 235,000

top metros based on population:

Rank Metropolitan Area Anchor City Population State(s)
1 Atlanta Metropolitan Area Atlanta 5,729,304 Georgia
2 South Florida Miami 5,422,200 Florida
3 Washington Metropolitan Area District of Columbia 5,306,565 Virginia / District of Columbia / Maryland / West Virginia
4 Tampa Bay Area Tampa 4,076,099 Florida
5 Greater Orlando Orlando 2,693,552 Florida
6 Hampton Roads Norfolk 1,700,000 Virginia / North Carolina
7 Greater Charlotte Charlotte 1,651,650 North Carolina / South Carolina
8 Central Alabama Birmingham 1,596,909 Alabama
9 The Triad Greensboro 1,535,926 North Carolina
10 Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro Nashville 1,498,836 Tennessee
11 The Triangle Raleigh 1,467,434 North Carolina
12 Greater Jacksonville Metropolitan Jacksonville 1,348,381 Florida
13 The Upstate Greenville 1,315,597 South Carolina
14 Memphis Metropolitan Area Memphis 1,260,905 Tennessee/Mississippi/Arkansas
15 Louisville-Jefferson County Louisville 1,245,920

Originally Posted by Port_of_Bama

I`m surprised New Orleans Isn`t on your list.

Same here. Per the Census Bureau's data, New Orleans would rank in the #12 spot on the list I posted earlier, right after Richmond. New Orleans' MSA population is estimated at 1,134,029. That's 13% off from its level at the 2000 census.

Originally Posted by KB0679

You know better.

He may not... I can't figure out where he's getting his numbers from for several of the areas. CSA data for each metro wouldn't be possible since only a few MSA's have a corresponding CSA. 123 CSA's vs. 567 MSA's.

Urbanscraper, how are you arriving at those population totals? The data both KB0679 and I are referencing is the US Census Bureau's 2008 estimates.

Initially I wss confused by your inclusion of DC in his metro list, since it was omitted from the cities. I think I see your logic now, though I wouldn't consider a MSA whose core city wasn't in the Southeast. But that's subject to preference and interpretation, as I noted in the case of Louisville earlier.

[KB0679]

Originally Posted by TampAGS

[FONT="Trebuchet MS"][FONT="Trebuchet MS"]He may not... I can't figure out where he's getting his numbers from for several of the areas. CSA data for each metro wouldn't be possible since only a few MSA's have a corresponding CSA. 123 CSA's vs. 567 MSA's.

But he DOES know that the Triangle is larger than the Triad. That's what I was referencing in particular.

[urbanscraper]

Originally Posted by KB0679

You know better.

According to the 2008 estimates straight from the Census Bureau, the Triad CSA is at 1,552,495 and the Triangle CSA is at 1,690,557. And if you're going to use the CSA stats for those two metros, they should have been used for all.

actually The Triad has 1.6 million

https://edis.commerce.state.nc.us/do...nt%20Triad.pdf

[KB0679]

Originally Posted by urbanscraper

actually The Triad has 1.6 million

https://edis.commerce.state.nc.us/do...nt%20Triad.pdf

And according to the same source, the Triangle has 1.9 million, so why did you not cite that figure? It was a bit disingenuous on your part to cite the higher figure for the Triad but not the Triangle (or the 2.2 million figure for Charlotte for that matter). Even then, the 2008 figure was more of an estimate/projection. The certified figure was from 2007 and was 1,578,881 for the Triad; for the Triangle, it was 1,891,217. No matter how you slice it, the Triangle has more people than the Triad.

At any rate, when you're comparing multiple metro areas across a region, you want to use the Census numbers to make sure you're doing an apples-to-apples comparison across jurisdictional boundaries.

[Zodiac1]

Poor UrbanScrapes, you cant catch a break when it comes to your beloved Greensboro! LOL
Obviously the city you live in and your most favorite (for some reason)!

[Civvik]

Yeah man gotta say tweaking your list to put Greensboro/Winston-Salem on par with Charlotte is pretty fanboy. Being fanboy on these forums doesn't get you or your metro very far. This place is teeming with census geeks who know CSA numbers like Dustin Hoffman in Rainman.

[Civvik]

Sorry, now that I've just been mean to a forumer (sorry!), I will produce my list of which cities seem the biggest based on their downtowns.

Miami
Atlanta
Charlotte
Tampa
New Orleans
Nashville
Birmingham
Memphis
Jacksonville
Orlando

[KB0679]

Originally Posted by Civvik

Sorry, now that I've just been mean to a forumer (sorry!), I will produce my list of which cities seem the biggest based on their downtowns.

Miami
Atlanta
Charlotte
Tampa
New Orleans
Nashville
Birmingham
Memphis
Jacksonville
Orlando

I would place New Orleans ahead of Charlotte easy. Its downtown is much denser than our's and feels bigger.

[Civvik]

Originally Posted by KB0679

I would place New Orleans ahead of Charlotte easy. Its downtown is much denser than our's and feels bigger.

Fair enough. I think I just get fixated on BofA...it's so pretty. You get points though for light rail.

[Exodus]

Originally Posted by bayou15

Dauphin Island, AL(First Capital of the Louisiana Territory)
Bayou la Batre,AL
Mobile BAY, AL

Pascagoula,MS
Moss Point,MS
Gautier,MS
O.S, MS
Biloxi,MS

Slidell, LA(the daiquiri shop first exit off of I-10west)
Nawlins,LA
Marrero,LA
Grand Isle,LA
Cut off,LA
LA Rose,LA

Baton Rouge/Tiger Stadium

Yes, Dauphin Isle, the best city in the state at least

[futuresooner]

Originally Posted by thoraudio

Howabout top 10 cities in the south that start with M that I can think of off the top of my head.

Montgomery
Mobile
Memphis
Marietta
Macon
Meridian
Miami
Myrtle Beach
Monroe
Millbrook

You left out Murfreesboro, Tn with a population of 100,575. This is from the completed special census from last year.

[Evan]

Originally Posted by Port_of_Bama

LOL ,hey no one think of my state as a cool place to live so someone has to represent !!

I do, I like it here! I don't know why I like it here, but I do.

[SpawnOfVulcan]

I LOVE it in Alabama I'd never wanna live anywhere else.

[buckett5425]

I dont understand why this thread is relevant when it is clearly obvious that everyone is biased. There were cities left out of the "count" that's population were 50 to 100,000 larger than some cities at the bottom of the list. This thread is ridiculous. Just sayin.....

[Brown Duckz]

Originally Posted by buckett5425

I dont understand why this thread is relevant when it is clearly obvious that everyone is biased. There were cities left out of the "count" that's population were 50 to 100,000 larger than some cities at the bottom of the list. This thread is ridiculous. Just sayin.....

You've stated the obvious, and presented an idea that was made clear in post #2.

[Evan]

Originally Posted by Alabadrock

I LOVE it in Alabama I'd never wanna live anywhere else.

Yeah, only we know it's not as bad as they think it is. They meaning the other 49 states.

[TampAGS]

So, continuing with our theme of ridiculous irrelevance and subjective bias, how about....

Top Ten SE Cities on Interstate-10
(selected on a whim and unranked, appearing east to west)
Jacksonville, FL
Tallahassee, FL
Pensacola, FL
Mobile, AL
Biloxi, MS
Gulfport, MS
New Orleans, LA
Baton Rouge, LA
Lafayette, LA
Lake Charles, LA

[OhGreatOne]

Originally Posted by urbanscraper

Here are the top 13 as far as population goes:

1 Jacksonville 794,555
2 Charlotte 716,874
3 Memphis 680,902
4 Nashville 590,807
5 Louisville 558,541
6 Atlanta 519,145
7 Virginia Beach 435,619
8 Miami 408,991
9 Raleigh 356,321
10 Tampa 332,888
11 Lexington-lafayette Co, Ky 272,000
12 Greensboro 259,000
13 Norfolk 235,000

top metros based on population:

Rank Metropolitan Area Anchor City Population State(s)
1 Atlanta Metropolitan Area Atlanta 5,729,304 Georgia
2 South Florida Miami 5,422,200 Florida
3 Washington Metropolitan Area District of Columbia 5,306,565 Virginia / District of Columbia / Maryland / West Virginia
4 Tampa Bay Area Tampa 4,076,099 Florida
5 Greater Orlando Orlando 2,693,552 Florida
6 Hampton Roads Norfolk 1,700,000 Virginia / North Carolina
7 Greater Charlotte Charlotte 1,651,650 North Carolina / South Carolina
8 Central Alabama Birmingham 1,596,909 Alabama
9 The Triad Greensboro 1,535,926 North Carolina
10 Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro Nashville 1,498,836 Tennessee
11 The Triangle Raleigh 1,467,434 North Carolina
12 Greater Jacksonville Metropolitan Jacksonville 1,348,381 Florida
13 The Upstate Greenville 1,315,597 South Carolina
14 Memphis Metropolitan Area Memphis 1,260,905 Tennessee/Mississippi/Arkansas
15 Louisville-Jefferson County Louisville 1,245,920

I am curious where you obtain your data for city populations. I recently consulted the US Census Bureau and they have the "official" estimates for all incorporated cities in the US. These numbers show--as your data show--that Charlotte has a larger population than Memphis. However, the population of the cities you listed are larger than the numbers given by the Census Burear, except for Raleigh, which is just over 392,000.

[SpawnOfVulcan]

They seem to be customized populations. For example, the Greater Birmingham area isn't that large.

[alon504]

Originally Posted by Port_of_Bama

I`m surprised New Orleans Isn`t on your list.

It's just a list, but, if he is going to include Birmingham Alabama area of over 1.5 million, he could include New Orleans Southeast Louisiana area metro area which would be over 2.6 million....over 3+ million live within 80 miles of Downtown New Orleans. Why do you think New Orleans has two professional sports teams and Birmingham has zero? It's because of population in the surrounding area.