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tovangar2 · #**13801** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 8:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Source: Circa '30 - '45

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Beelman or Clements (has anyone got an answer to that?) streamlined the Auditorium building in 1938.

Thx, that's a nice shot of the Willoughby / A.L. Bath building. The 'embarrassing', old buildings on the east side of the park were so often not included in photos of Pershing Square.

WS1911 · #**13802** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 8:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by SoCal1954

All very interesting and informative!!

I do not care for the 'coldness' of the new park scheme.

I think this was the best looking version; before they scraped the ground clean!

The older version was so appealing.

I am trying to get the right perspective, which corner was that statue on, in the early 1900's? I am assuming it was Hill and 5th, but not sure of the direction on the compass as to which corner it was at? S/W corner of Hill St. and 5th St.??

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I agree with you. The best incarnation of Central Park/Pershing Square was the one in place before World War I. My wife and I were just in that area this morning and we walked right by Pershing Square and did not go in. It's a very unfriendly-looking place.

The statue was originally at the southwest corner of 5th and Hill.

ethereal_reality · #**13803** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 8:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

The Mar Vista Apts and Hotel Second and Arizona, Santa Monica (What happens in the Mar Vista stays in the Mar Vista!)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7139/7...d029d6c0_b.jpg

Mar Vista today (notice the difference along the roof line)

google street view

no roof top hotel sign that is seen in the vintage postcard

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tovangar2 · #**13804** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 8:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by WS1911

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The best incarnation of Central Park/Pershing Square was the one in place before World War I.

The version of Pershing Square that everyone seems to like was the work of John Parkinson in 1910. It had the nice balusters at each corner and a three-tier fountain sculpted by Johan Caspar Lachne Gruenfeld, braced by four life-size concrete cherubs supporting a vase of cascading water at the center (I wonder what happened to that?)*. The lawns were not to be walked on; benches lined the paths blocking access. The lawns were a cool, green place to rest one's eyes, not oneself.

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Originally Posted by Sebisebster

Pershing Square in 1988, looking north

* The fountain is very reminiscent of the Fountaine des Quatre Saisons, Marigny Square, Paris, although far from identical

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ethereal_reality · #**13805** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 9:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

The version of Pershing Square that everyone seems to like was the work of John Parkinson in 1910. It had the nice balusters at each corner and a three-tier fountain sculpted by Johan Caspar Lachne Gruenfeld, braced by four life-size concrete cherubs supporting a vase of cascading water at the center (I wonder what happened to that?). The lawns were not to be walked on; benches lined the paths blocking access. The lawns were a cool, green place to rest one's eyes, not oneself.

Gruenfeld fountain

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/4586/rec/60

It probably ended up in some millionaire's backyard. (perhaps we'll discover it someday using google earth)

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ethereal_reality · #**13806** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 9:20 PM**

Originally posted by ethereal_reality

Echo Park Boat House in 1899 and today.

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BifRayRock · #**13807** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 9:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Beaudry

I really like this one because it has a fave bldng of mine, the Petroleum Securities Building, AKA the Pan-American Petroleum Building. It's a Meyer & Holler, built by Edward Doheny, at Olympic and Flower (SW corner) and in 1925 Doheny designed and erected America's largest electrical sign for it, which was about 160' x 50' if I remember, three color flashing "PAN-GAS".

(both USC; USC calls the second image 1926, but Hydril didn't come into being until 1933, and besides, those cars are early 30s, not mid-20s.)

Look closely at the uppermost photo and you can make out the Packard Building. Also known as The Earle C. Anthony Bldg and former broadcast studios for KFI radio. (The building with twin radio masts.)

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1927-8 - Construction of Earle C Anthony Building - 1000 S. Hope

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BifRayRock · #**13808** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 9:29 PM**

More of the Packard Building.

Noir'ers, please park in assigned spaces.

1929 - 1000 S. Hope Street - Packard - KFI Radio

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Mr. Anthony's impressive Los Feliz residence at 3405 Waverly Dr. is or should be the subject of another post. Flynn, Rathbone, Weissmuller and even Mayor Shaw would have been comfortable there. A taste:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061669.jpg

tovangar2 · #**13809** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 9:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Gruenfeld fountain

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/4586/rec/60

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Parkinson and Gruehfeld (1872-1954) collaborated at least twice more. He did the sculptures for John & Donald Parkinson's Bovard Administration Building at USC in 1919-21:

http://www.publicartinla.com/USCArt/Bovard/wesley.html

http://www.you-are-here.com/building/bovard.html

Gruenfeld also did the foliate carvings for City Hall:

http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=5359

(Interesting editorial on civic corruption at that last link)

Chuckaluck · #**13810** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

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Any information on "The Crippen?" 1028 South Hope

Early Earle C. Anthony Photo - Early but specific date unknown

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ony&DMROTATE=0

'32 Packard Eight Deluxe in front of FoX Wilshire Theater.

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BifRayRock · #**13811** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 10:35 PM**

1934 - 6365 Hollywood Boulevard
(Stationers Corporation, Kelly Music and Hindin's)

Interesting how many guy wires were anchored to the building's facade. Tasteful/artistic lettering identifies the businesses within.

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Hardly any resemblance to the facade at the same location today.

http://cbk1.google.com/cbk?output=th...=1&w=300&h=118

ethereal_reality · #**13812** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 10:48 PM**

Does anyone recognize this building? Our clues are the street number 205 and a sign pointing in the direction of 6th Street.
I am so hoping it still stands.

Max Yavno 1979

http://americanart.si.edu/images/199....38.113_1a.jpg
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ethereal_reality · #**13813** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 10:59 PM**

Bill Owens 1980

http://americanart.si.edu/images/1990/1990.38.78_1a.jpg
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BifRayRock · #**13814** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 11:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Mar Vista today (notice the difference along the roof line)

google street view

no roof top hotel sign that is seen in the vintage postcard

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Mar Vista's decorative rooftop elements were nice additions. The last photo appears to include framework that might have supported the sign. But it could also have been part of a rooftop enclosure.

Maybe it's the color of the brickwork or its footprint, but for some hard-to-explain reason, the Mar Vista conjures thoughts of the Mary Andrews Clark Residence (Third Street and Loma) and the possibilities . . . Probably a very unfair comparison, especially considering the Clark's landscaping and imaginative roofline - and without knowing anything about the MVista's construction budget.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2336/2...ebc7c600_b.jpg

More Clark residence here > http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=688

ethereal_reality · #**13815** Posted **Apr 6, 2013, 11:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chuckaluck

A couple blocks north on La Cienega at "366" there is a long standing venue that has hosted live and recorded entertainment. It is currently known as Largo at the Coronet. I knew it as the Coronet Theater and its neighbor, the Coronet Pub. I was not aware that was once called the "Coronet Louvre" and LA's cinematic avant guard. "The Coronet theatre was built in 1947 by Frieda Berkoff of the famous Russian dancing family the Berkoffs." Wiki

1950

http://www.largo-la.com/wp-content/u...eatre_1950.jpg

google

Is this the missing 1950 photograph ChuckaLuck?

Notice The Troubadour next door. Is this an early address of Doug Weston's Troubadour located at 9081 Santa Monica Boulevard?

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Chuckaluck · #**13816** Posted **Apr 7, 2013, 12:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Is this the missing 1950 photograph?

Notice The Troubadour next door. Is this an early address of Doug Weston's Troubadour located at 9081 Santa Monica Boulevard?

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The Troubadour was created by Doug Weston in the late 1950s as a coffee house on La Cienega Boulevard It then moved to its current location shortly after opening, and has remained open continuously since. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tro...West_Hollywood

ethereal_reality · #**13817** Posted **Apr 7, 2013, 1:04 AM**

For a split second I thought I found the Greunfeld fountain in the lobby of the Roosevelt Hotel.

http://www.glamamor.com/2011/05/2011...-festival.html
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SoCal1954 · #**13818** Posted **Apr 7, 2013, 1:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Does anyone recognize this building? Our clues are the street number 205 and a sign pointing in the direction of 6th Street.
I am so hoping it still stands.

Max Yavno 1979

Well, according to Google Street-View, the same appearing bldg. at 205 W. 6th St. Los Angeles, CA 90013, is still there, at the corner of 6th and Spring St. Mostly vacant, it appears, but looking better and cleaner than that old photo.

The facade matches perfectly. The Pawn Shop, it appears, just moved up W. 6th, a block or so.

Note, under the window at the left, below the sign Pawn Shop, it say Est. 1918; however, this photo is most likely from well into the 70's, by the appearances/style of the advertising signs? The color tone of the photo makes it appear much older. The parking meter out front, and the reference to "TV's" on the sign, are clues as to the age....as well as what appears to be an old style metal MasterCard sign, hanging above, near the right of the main door. LOL

ProphetM · #**13819** Posted **Apr 7, 2013, 3:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by SoCal1954

Well, according to Google Street-View, the same appearing bldg. at 205 W. 6th St. Los Angeles, CA 90013, is still there, at the corner of 6th and Spring St. Mostly vacant, it appears, but looking better and cleaner than that old photo.

The facade matches perfectly. The Pawn Shop, it appears, just moved up W. 6th, a block or so.

Note, under the window at the left, below the sign Pawn Shop, it say Est. 1918; however, this photo is most likely from well into the 70's, by the appearances/style of the advertising signs? The color tone of the photo makes it appear much older. The parking meter out front, and the reference to "TV's" on the sign, are clues as to the age....as well as what appears to be an old style metal MasterCard sign, hanging above, near the right of the main door. LOL

Do you have a link to the Street View you were looking at? I'm not finding the building at 6th & Spring at all.

I noticed that the sign over the door says San Pedro Loan and Jewelry Co., so I was looking on 6th down there, but the area of 205 is now taken up by the Crowne Plaza Hotel.

ethereal_reality · #**13820** Posted **Apr 7, 2013, 4:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by SoCal1954

Well, according to Google Street-View, the same appearing bldg. at 205 W. 6th St. Los Angeles, CA 90013, is still there, at the corner of 6th and Spring St. Mostly vacant, it appears, but looking better and cleaner than that old photo.

The facade matches perfectly. The Pawn Shop, it appears, just moved up W. 6th, a block or so.

The building at that location also has cartouches (sp) between the columns and the 1st and 2nd floor.
Am I looking at the wrong building SoCal1954?

gsv

the building in question

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