The Brightline Thread

[Hatman]

Of course AAF will build the trirail platforms. Having trirail own their own platforms is only one of many possible arrangements. AAF can own all the platforms and charge trirail an access fee, or can build the structure and not finish the platforms, then charged trirail the 64 million at a later date.
They will do this because the value of their property depends on getting a lot of people to move through their stations. At Miami, trirail can potentialy bring in more people per day than AAFs own trains. In short, the people at AAF would be shooting themselves in the foot by doing something so idiotic as to build their station in such a way that trirail can never be accommodated in the future.

[eleven=11]

Yeah, Why is the mayor of Miami against this?
is he a friend of Gov rick scott?
http://realtime.blog.palmbeachpost.c...st-palm-beach/

[chris08876]

Here is a NIMBY letter against the project:


Credit: http://www.floridanotallaboard.net/news/

This being the Sheriff's from St.Lucie and the Indian River Counties.

And here is another:

LETTER: ALL ABOARD FLORIDA CATASTROPHIC FOR THE TREASURE COAST

Letter: All scenarios catastrophic for Treasure Coast with All Aboard Florida

There are no successful unsubsidized passenger rail services in the country. None. When All Aboard Florida's proposed passenger service fails, and the loans default, Florida East Coast Rail will use these now-available and unused tracks for hauling double the freight from Miami. The Panama Canal will bring larger ships and double the freight. AAF offers nothing but unsafe crossings and delayed response time of emergency vehicles.

You live on the other side of the tracks from the hospital and have a heart attack, you call 911. You hear a whistle, the ambulance takes 5 or 10 minutes more to arrive. Paramedics treat you and load you into the ambulance. As it nears the tracks you hear a whistle. The ambulance stops again.

There's only one railroad bridge in Stuart. It's nearly 100 years old. Regulations require it to close 10 minutes before a train crosses and 10 or 15 minutes after. Thirty-two trains passing plus additional freight trains means the bridge might open to boat traffic about 5 - 10 minutes an hour.

Boats must keep moving in order to maintain control. When the bridge does go up, it will be a dash to get through. What could go wrong? When the bridge breaks (as 100-year-old bridges do), the trains will back up and will block crossings for miles on either side. How hard will it be to get parts?
Property values will plummet. Stuart will lose the left turn lane at Confusion Corner and lose more than 100 parking spots. Business will suffer immensely and many will fail.

If AAF is approved, we lose. Government should be by the people and for the people. It's about protecting money, not the people. This smells like a sellout and they don't care about us.

Credit: Citizens Against the Train

[bobdreamz]

Originally Posted by Hatman

Of course AAF will build the trirail platforms. Having trirail own their own platforms is only one of many possible arrangements. AAF can own all the platforms and charge trirail an access fee, or can build the structure and not finish the platforms, then charged trirail the 64 million at a later date.
They will do this because the value of their property depends on getting a lot of people to move through their stations. At Miami, trirail can potentialy bring in more people per day than AAFs own trains. In short, the people at AAF would be shooting themselves in the foot by doing something so idiotic as to build their station in such a way that trirail can never be accommodated in the future.

This should answer your questions for the most part:
http://www.miamitodaynews.com/2015/0...town-advances/
It isn't just about platforms.

[bobdreamz]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Here is a NIMBY letter against the project:


Credit: http://www.floridanotallaboard.net/news/

This being the Sheriff's from St.Lucie and the Indian River Counties.

And here is another:


Credit: Citizens Against the Train

None of this opposition really matters any more and that letter from the 3 Sherrifs was hilarious.

[electricron]

Originally Posted by bobdreamz

None of this opposition really matters any more and that letter from the 3 Sherrifs was hilarious.

I completely agree! It's the responsibility of the local governments and states to build viaducts over the tracks.

[chris08876]

Tri-Rail Connection To Airport Coming Within Weeks As Miami Central Station Nears Completion

In just a few weeks, passengers will be able to get to and from Miami International Airport using Tri-Rail.

Officials expect to open the Tri-Rail portion of the Miami Central Station this spring. The cost of the Tri-Rail station is $92 million, up from the $85 million originally budgeted.

Passengers of the 71-mile Tri-Rail system will be able to access the airport terminal by taking an escalator to the MIA Mover, followed by a three-minute ride. MIA Mover trains depart approximately every 90 seconds, and MIA has ordered additional Mitsubishi Crystal Mover cars to add new capacity next year.

Tri-Rail has been shuttling MIA passengers to the Hialeah Market Station since September 2011, when they closed the airport station to rebuild it. At the time, they said that construction would last approximately two years. By closing the station instead of building while keeping it open, they claimed that they would save $10 million and 21 months of construction time.

Other components of the Intermodal Center, including the car rental center and metrorail link, are already open. An Amtrak connection has been plagued by delays and won’t open until summer 2016.

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http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...rs-completion/

[electricron]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Tri-Rail Connection To Airport Coming Within Weeks As Miami Central Station Nears Completion
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http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...rs-completion/

How does TriRail, a public transit agency, have anything to do with All Aboard Florida, a private train operator? Check this thread's title again, you're wrong twice!

[chris08876]

^^^^

This shows your limited understanding of the All Aboard Florida project. ABF wants the tri-rail system to be linked to it. This way tri-rail funnels passengers to downtown, and also that they will share tracks with the upcoming ABF project. So its all relevant. They also want to expand service along the same route. Think of these two rail projects or services as working side by side in the grand scheme of things.

[eleven=11]

you know AAF (all aboard florida) could become a management company
and operate some other rail/transportation stuff like Tri-Rail.
also the downtown Miami metromover which the city seems like they dont know much about.
what about orlando SunRail or the Ft lauderdale Wave train
plus dont forget jacksonville or Tampa expansions......
Miami/dade MetroRail needs help(plus its getting new trains in 2015)
Rick Scott should love this idea(and I hate him)

[chris08876]

This thread should really be renamed to a title which represents all rail projects in Florida because they all tie into the bigger picture, and that a statewide system where both municipal systems merge into a statewide system. Similar to how every small transit project in NJ or Connecticut ties into NYC, its the same thing. If the ideas popular, I could in the future work on a thread which discusses all of these projects into one from small to medium to big (Maybye include it all like rail, highways, new bus routes and so on). Similar to a Nexus thread on rail/transportation, only for Florida? If the ideas popular (similar to a Nexis4Jersey rail thread), I could do one...

ABF being the main one, but everything along the Coast, inland, to the north, to the west, and east ties into it.

Originally Posted by eleven=11

you know AAF (all aboard florida) could become a management company
and operate some other rail/transportation stuff like Tri-Rail.
also the downtown Miami metromover which the city seems like they dont know much about.
what about orlando SunRail or the Ft lauderdale Wave train
plus dont forget jacksonville or Tampa expansions......
Miami/dade MetroRail needs help(plus its getting new trains in 2015)
Rick Scott should love this idea(and I hate him)

See you get it. But others, eh... must not be doing the reading.

But let me know if you guys want something like that. I like working on these type of threads, and they tend to turn out like a good book.

[eleven=11]

this forum should mostlyish be about the 4 stations
miami,ft laud,WPB, and orlando airport
looking forward to all the construction photos

[Jasonhouse]

^Actually, this discussion is within a thread, that is within a subforum, which is within a subforum, which is within a forum.

[eleven=11]

free Tri-Rail tickets for downtown Miami Station
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...e16221608.html

[eleven=11]

https://youtu.be/cuxmripBH-M
video youtube

[eleven=11]

http://www.pbconventioncenter.com/ab...ruction_update
downtown WPB webcam hotel , question about FT Laud convention center
did it ever get a attached hotel?? just curious.
I wonder if miami AAF station gets a webcam?

[eleven=11]

http://www.transitmiami.com/
very good article about tri rail coastal link, good website.

[N830MH]

Originally Posted by eleven=11

http://www.transitmiami.com/
very good article about tri rail coastal link, good website.

Well, did they approved it?

[bobdreamz]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Tri-Rail Connection To Airport Coming Within Weeks As Miami Central Station Nears Completion




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http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...rs-completion/

Finally!

"Tri-Rail's new station at the Miami International Airport is scheduled to open April 5, the South Florida Regional Transportation Authority (SFRTA) announced yesterday.
Part of the Miami Central Station at the Miami Intermodal Center, the Tri-Rail station will provide an immediate connection to the airport via the automated MIA Mover light-rail shuttle, SFRTA officials said.
The Miami Central Station already serves as a stop for Miami-Dade Transit's Metrorail, with Amtrak and Greyhound expected to join in the future, according to SFRTA."

http://www.progressiverailroading.co...airport--43948

*PS: We used to have a thread about the Intermodal center but it has disappeared.

[eleven=11]

miami central new constuction photos
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...2601103&type=1
anybody know how to post photos from facebook??