Winnipeg James Armstrong Richardson International Airport - Page 131

SkydivePilot · #**2601** Posted **Sep 28, 2014, 8:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Riverman

I don't think so. There are people who will not fly on turboprops - I'm one of them. If an airline I use switches to turboprops I'll switch airlines, that instant. I don't care if I have to cram into a Citation. Both the LF sound and the stroboscopic effect of the prop blades make me sick for days after.

Believe me, I'm not alone.

Turboprops are here to stay --- forever! They are far, far more efficient with reference to costs per seat mile - over relatively short distances. (YQR-YWG and shorter.)

FYI thing here: Turboprops and high-bypass turbofans are essentially the same thing. The basic fundamental difference is that turboprops have no cowling. (Nowadays, ALL jets are high-bypass turbofans.)

And, further ongoing tests with regards to propeller technology is evolving; such as, staggerbladed-type designs. (To eliminate noise and further enhance efficiency/performance.)

Riverman · #**2602** Posted **Sep 28, 2014, 9:08 PM**

^ Well aware. I've worked on jet engines for most of my career. Just have a hard dislike for the regional turboprop experience.

SkydivePilot · #**2603** Posted **Sep 28, 2014, 9:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Riverman

^ Well aware. I've worked on jet engines for most of my career. Just have a hard dislike for the regional turboprop experience.

Oh ok, that's awesome!!! I appreciate your take on that. (I fly a BE350, Lol!!!)

ILYR · #**2604** Posted **Sep 29, 2014, 2:59 PM**

Just check the 2nd quater passenger numbers that are finally available. Good numbers.

2013 264316 278834 292264
2014 284681 291593 309144
Change 20365 12759 16880
% +7.7 +4.6 %5.8

June was the second highest for any year on record.

bomberjet · #**2605** Posted **Sep 29, 2014, 4:42 PM**

Re: the master plan. The new passenger terminal is just one piece of the airport. It could include how any open land would be developed (old terminal location, among others), freight, future runway expansion, maybe a whole re-thinking of the parking lots/parking in general. LRT/subway anybody?

kattiff · #**2606** Posted **Sep 30, 2014, 6:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Re: the master plan. The new passenger terminal is just one piece of the airport. It could include how any open land would be developed (old terminal location, among others), freight, future runway expansion, maybe a whole re-thinking of the parking lots/parking in general. LRT/subway anybody?

I remember when they were building the new airport it said phase 1 and then phase 2 would be at a later date. like you said bomber yea the old airport land could be where the airport expansion will go. or Ive heard back in the day that maybe the western aviation museum will go there at the old terminal site and prob have an observation deck.
ive seen the plans before of the third runway maybe that will happen. gonna be interesting.
could even announce new airlines too lol

The Jabroni · #**2607** Posted **Oct 1, 2014, 4:07 AM**

As far as I remember about Phase 2, and please correct me if I'm wrong, it involved expanding east to include on building Gate 1 on the U.S./International side of the terminal.

Whether if that was in itself Phase 2, or part of a larger scale Phase 2 of the terminal, is grounds for further discussion. We may simply have to find out tomorrow at the public consultation.

kattiff · #**2608** Posted **Oct 2, 2014, 5:07 AM**

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2014/10/0...tional-airport

so more destinations... didn't say of terminal expansion or anything unless that will come out on the net later on in the days

esquire · #**2609** Posted **Oct 2, 2014, 1:53 PM**

Airport authorities always say they're working on new destinations... but it's been quite a while since WAA actually managed to snag one apart from the usual annual shuffling of sun destinations.

Some of those routes will not materialize for a long time if ever (Manila? Come on) but some have a realistic chance... mainly feeders to one or two additional big hub airports from a list that includes Newark, Los Angeles, Dallas, San Francisco, Houston or Atlanta. Those would be pretty useful for most Winnipeg travellers. I can also see improved service to southwestern US destinations like Phoenix and Las Vegas.

Riverman · #**2610** Posted **Oct 2, 2014, 3:15 PM**

Good article about attracting more flights to Winnipeg.

"Not all passengers are created equal: the business traveler in seat 23A who paid $800 for a last-minute round trip to Toronto is certainly more valuable to the airline than the holidaymaker next to her in seat 23B who booked well in advance and paid just $500 for the same round-trip.

Thus, the more seats that are likely to be filled by the $800 passengers, the more impressed an airline will be with a city’s potential. Revenue, not just headcount, is critical to a route’s survival."

https://theviewfromseven.wordpress.c...nipeg-airport/

esquire · #**2611** Posted **Oct 2, 2014, 3:40 PM**

^ That's why Manila is a no-hoper. As I've said before, people going on a once a decade trip to visit grandma during a seat sale is not something to build a transpacific route on. I doubt there is enough high-value intercontinental travel to and from Winnipeg to sustain anything more than maybe a token once-a-day flight to Europe.

I suppose that overseas vacation charters are a possibility, but that's a longshot. The best hope for Winnipeg travellers is better service to major hubs to increase the number of opportunities to reach far-flung destinations with only one stop. A lot of people don't realize that some of the best options for overseas travel involve connecting in the US as opposed to Toronto... adding more hubs to go along with MSP, ORD and DEN can only help in that regard.

Cyro · #**2612** Posted **Oct 2, 2014, 6:06 PM**

Intersting debate on potential flights/fares and the feasability of routes being added over the next 25+ years.
It seems a prudent discussion by the WAA over such a long time frame, slowly planning on fazing in routes as they become required and economical over a 2.5 decade time span at their predicted annual growth rate of 2.8%.

I was interested in the infrastructure plans with the expected increase in cargo handling capacites as well as rates in passenger use which hasn't been mentioned yet.

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It all means there will be greater needs for processing passengers and goods and handling planes at the gates, he said.

Winnipeg's airport has some unique advantages that position it well for the future, such as the close proximity of Red River College's composite maintenance training and the aerospace operations of Boeing, Standard Aero and Magellan.

"There is a hub of economic activity that could pay dividends not just on the airport site itself, but well beyond the boundaries. We're fairly optimistic about the growth projections but (we've developed) a fairly sensible plan that doesn't over-invest in the long-term future but has incremental investments tied with triggers for the (various requirements)," he said.

The WAA is also considering building a light rapid transit line to be able to move passengers from the airport campus to downtown Winnipeg.

Bélanger said there are two possible places for it to stop at the airport: either on the second level in front of the terminal building or next to the parkade.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bus...ce=d-more-news

Increasing the handling capacity for passengers,(departures/arrivals) increased need for parking facilities, increased infrastructure for expanding cargo handling capacities due to the proximity to CentrePort,(inland port) Red River and the 3 Aerospace industries among other industries that will be developed over this period of time. LRT?

jmt18325 · #**2613** Posted **Oct 18, 2014, 8:59 PM**

Was the Russian surveillance plane that's flying over in town today? I saw two F-18s take off from the airport a few minutes ago.

The Jabroni · #**2614** Posted **Oct 18, 2014, 11:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by jmt18325

Was the Russian surveillance plane that's flying over in town today? I saw two F-18s take off from the airport a few minutes ago.

Maybe, but they're here today for the Bomber game that's happening at the stadium.

In fact, they "buzzed the tower" over my house twice, just before the game started.

Riverman · #**2615** Posted **Oct 19, 2014, 4:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by jmt18325

Was the Russian surveillance plane that's flying over in town today? I saw two F-18s take off from the airport a few minutes ago.

A Bear wouldn't be allowed to enter Canadian airspace, let get as far as Winnipeg. They are always intercepted over the ocean.

jmt18325 · #**2616** Posted **Oct 19, 2014, 6:24 AM**

There is currently a Russian surveillance jet (IL-76 I think) flying over Canada, as allowed in the open skies treaty. We do the same regularly. The airforce is escorting the said flight. The F-18s could also have been two of the 6 deploying to Kuwait.

jmt18325 · #**2617** Posted **Oct 19, 2014, 6:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by The Jabroni

Maybe, but they're here today for the Bomber game that's happening at the stadium.

In fact, they "buzzed the tower" over my house twice, just before the game started.

That makes sense.

Riverman · #**2618** Posted **Oct 19, 2014, 1:36 PM**

IL-76 is a cargo aircraft.

The CF-18s being deployed to the middle east are from CF Bagotville.

armorand93 · #**2619** Posted **Oct 19, 2014, 2:29 PM**

So the fighter escort was to make sure Winnipeg doesn't get a Red Dawn?

optimusREIM · #**2620** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 1:50 AM**

So I noticed a large 4 engined jet departing ywg today from afar and after some research found that it was most likely vs43 ywg to Las which is a 747 from virgin Atlantic. I wasn't aware that there was scheduled virgin Atlantic service out of winnipeg nor that 747s still graced our skies. Is anyone else aware of this?