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Old Posted Jul 28, 2015, 10:37 PM
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Developer is having a meeting in November where they may reveal the height and floors. For now, it is not 100% definite in terms of the floor/height so this theoretically could change.
     
     
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Foundation Work Making Headway At Extell’s One Manhattan Square, At 250 South Street







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Extell was the city’s first developer to put up a residential building of 1,000 feet or greater, and while the construction of One57 was fraught with complications, practice will hopefully make perfect. Despite initial difficulties and buckling streets, the latest photos from Tectonic show One Manhattan Square is now making major headway, at 250 South Street.

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With Pope Francis on his way to town, it’s open season. Everyone is vying for some attention from the Holy See, grabbing at the proverbial tunic. Including the neighborhood activists that together comprise the Coalition to Protect Chinatown and the Lower East Side.

As previously reported, this consortium of local organizations has already planned a “March Against Displacement” for Friday afternoon to shine a light on the plight of low-income community being displaced from Chinatown/Lower East Side. The 80-story Extell monstrosity rising at 250 South Street (and its “poor door” sibling) sits front-and-center in this debate, and is the starting point of the rally.

Now they want the Pope to know about it, and kindly request an intervention with Mayor de Blasio. Below is the open letter:
Open Letter to His Holiness, the Pope:

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The people of Chinatown and the Lower East Side represent one of the last working class and low- income communities of color in New York City. Our neighborhood was planned and built as a bastion of affordability and we have been fighting to protect and grow our community in the face of massive displacement pressures. We are appealing to you because we know you are a champion for the poor, an advocate for justice.

We are facing a crisis in our neighborhood. In this community, families––families with children, families taking care of the elderly––are being pushed out of their homes. Since our Mayor, Bill De Blasio, took office, homelessness has reached an all-time high and the disparity between rich and poor is growing every day. Rents are skyrocketing, along with property taxes, and our schools, senior centers, community programs and other services are being drained of funding and closing down. Small businesses are closing down. Public land is being used to build luxury highrises. Public housing is being sold and falling into disrepair.

Why is this happening? Because our community has no protections in place against luxury development. Because our city government is refusing to hear the demand of the people of this community to pass a rezoning plan to protect our neighborhood from luxury development and its attendant displacement. Because our government gives property-tax breaks to luxury developers to build in our backyard via the 421-a tax giveaway.

Chinatown and the Lower East Side have united to fight for the city to pass a rezoning plan, the Chinatown Working Group Rezoning Plan, that will protect our community from displacement. The city is refusing to pass the plan, saying it is “too ambitious”. A similar plan was passed in 2008 to protect the mainly white and wealthy East Village. Why is our plan too ambitious when theirs was not? This is racist.

Your Holiness, we need your help. Support the people of Chinatown and the Lower East Side who are coming together to save our community. Please tell our Mayor to stop financing luxury developers to push us out of the community we’ve built. Tell him to heed the people and pass the Chinatown Working Group Rezoning Plan. We hope you will join us in this fight and we invite you to join us on Friday, September 25th, as we march from the Lower East Side to City hall.

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The Coalition to Protect Chinatown and the Lower East Side

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The pope will stop at WTC site, UN, Harlem, and MSG tomorrow, so these residents are out of luck.

Its like anything else. This will rise, they will accept it, and move on to the next development to antagonize. A tower such as this will most likely get others to purchase somewhat cheap parcels on the island near it, and build even more towers seeing the success that this will inevitably become.
     
     
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A similar plan was passed in 2008 to protect the mainly white and wealthy East Village. Why is our plan too ambitious when theirs was not?
Do these people even think about what they're saying?

They say that the rezoning in 2008 of the East Village was to protect the white and wealthy. Protect them from what? Protect them from rising rents? Why would the wealthy need protection from that? Last I checked, the East Village has gotten expensive along with pretty much all of Manhattan despite the rezoning. So obviously, rezoning won't keep rents from rising. (If anything else, it'll actually do just the opposite and cause rents to skyrocket by putting a restriction on supply.)

These people just don't make any sense. So they want a ban on luxury development? How can a city in a capitalist, democratic country have the legal right to ban free market activities?
     
     
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If we put all the rich people in tall skinny buildings with super small footprints . . then -
we won't need to tear down poor people's shorter buildings to make room for the rich . .
and everybody gets to see the tall pretty rich buildings in the neighborhood . .

And looking up at them . . we ourselves can be inspired to dream of tall aspirations . .
While they look down at us . . and see our much shorter miserable lives . .
Seeing us thusly . . they can only get depressed and commit suicide . .
so then we'll have our Revenge . . and the Pope will forgive us. Amen.
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This is really horrible for the area. This just helps push out more working class people from the city. NY has already lost so much culture. Forcing people from their neighborhoods to build yet another soulless development not progress. Most any real New Yorker would oppose this project.
     
     
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^ No one was forced out here. It was a depressing, rundown Pathmark (in bankruptsy btw) and a large parking lot.

This tower actually helps against your complaint. It adds new supply to the city without destroying existent homes or displacing residents.

The new tower will have an even bigger space for retail and possibly a better grocer than Pathmark. It's a win-win for everybody. Only ignorant people will complain against that.
     
     
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This is really horrible for the area. This just helps push out more working class people from the city. NY has already lost so much culture. Forcing people from their neighborhoods to build yet another soulless development not progress. Most any real New Yorker would oppose this project.


This is the first time I've ever heard someone refer to stale Fruity Pebbles as cultural soulfulness.
     
     
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This is really horrible for the area. This just helps push out more working class people from the city. NY has already lost so much culture. Forcing people from their neighborhoods to build yet another soulless development not progress. Most any real New Yorker would oppose this project.
So those who agree with you are real New Yorkers, and those who disagree with you are not real New Yorkers? Call me silly, but I'm thinking that people who live in New York are New Yorkers. I don't care who they are or when they got here or where they came from. This city would die without a constant influx of newcomers of all types. If you want to keep the city and its neighborhoods only for those who got here first, you will live in a dying city with few opportunities for yourself or your children.

This particular "real New Yorker" does not agree that parking lots are soulful. Nor does a building that replaces a parking lot drive out current residents. I'm happy to see a parking lot replaced with a large building. Buildings full of people add to street life, and street life generally makes neighborhoods safer and more livable. Also, vibrant neighborhoods create job opportunities all along the education/talent/experience spectrum, which is precisely what the working class and the unemployed need.

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...Nor does a building that replaces a parking lot drive out current residents. I'm happy to see a parking lot replaced with a large building. Buildings full of people add to street life, and street life generally makes neighborhoods safer and more livable.
Surely, as someone who thinks as much about cities as I'm sure you do, you must realize that this project will significantly alter the community and the neighborhood around it both for better and worse.

I'm not making a judgement call, but anyone familiar with this area of the city know's it's one of the few areas in the Manhattan still open to low and medium income residents. This project may improve the neighborhood both superficially and in more substantial economic terms, but that change is guaranteed to cause price increases and displacement that will drive residents out and change the 'culture' of the area. That is not up for debate.

And, in regards to someone's point that 'stale fruity pebbles' don't contribute to culture - maybe not, but the working-class family that buys them might. Ugly though it may have been, an affordable grocery store is another rare commodity in Manhattan. Working people often have to choose between blowing a fortune at Whole Foods or getting sub-par food from a bodega, and this project will exacerbate the problem.

So, in short: As anyone who has ever lived in Manhattan can tell you, replacing an (ugly) affordable grocery store in a low-to-medium-income neighborhood with condos is going to irrevocably change the neighborhood and it's population, no question about it.
     
     
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^ The housing projects (read: income restricted) in this area are not going anywhere. That's where most of the "low and middle income" people you are referring to live. I don't see how this tower and it's new residents will ever change that.

Do you know that as part of this project, an additional few hundred more affordable units will be built (I forgot the exact number but you can go back a few pages to find out) that wouldn't have if not for this project?

As for Pathmark being affordable, that's funny because my gripe (and apparently by their decline of business attests to) is that their prices are uncompetitive. Have you been in one lately? They have poor quality products, bad selection, bad service and gross stores but their prices are high. For example, they charge .75 a can of cat food that I get at Shoprite and other stores for .52 a can for the same exact brand. That's ridiculous and that's one example of many I find.

The only reason the people there go to that store was because there were no other alternatives in that dreary area. This project will bring more needed retail in an area desperate for more shopping alternatives. Those towers-in-the-park provide no retail or services to the residents that live in them. This project is exactly what will finally make this area better for the people there right now but as always, they don't know that and are just fearful of change, even if it's for their own good.
     
     
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Re the recent posts, I hold these views:

1. After this tower is complete and occupied, there will be 200 more affordable units in this neighborhood than before. Good.

2. After this tower is complete and occupied, there will be 700 more luxury units in this neighborhood than before. Good.

3. After this tower is complete and occupied, there will be about 900 more apartments in the neighborhood than before, which means more people than before. This is not currently a neighborhood I would call "overcrowded." It needs more people, not fewer, and it will get them. It needs more street life, not less, and it will get it. Good.

4. After this tower is complete and occupied, there will be greater income diversity in this neighborhood than before. Good.

5. If this tower is successful (meaning the developers make money), there will be more developments like it. Good.

6. This sets the stage for there to be more grocery stores in this neighborhood, not just one. Good. Price competition and jobs are good things.

7. Witness the number of applications for the affordable units in brand new luxury towers in various other neighborhoods in the city that are supposedly unfriendly to the poor and working class. The poor and working class aren't running away from these towers, they are running toward them in huge numbers. Only a few are lucky enough to be chosen in the lottery, and I am sad for those who don't win a spot. We need more of these projects, not fewer.

8. So long as the number of new affordable units in a particular project equals or exceeds the number that were torn down for that particular project, it's a win for the working class. This project CLEARLY meets this criteria. No affordable units are lost because of this project, and 200 are gained.

9. Yes, this city is getting more and more expensive. But you don't make it less expensive by restricting building permits and business permits. You make it less expensive by allowing the market to catch up to demand.
     
     
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I'm not making a judgement call, but anyone familiar with this area of the city know's it's one of the few areas in the Manhattan still open to low and medium income residents. This project may improve the neighborhood both superficially and in more substantial economic terms, but that change is guaranteed to cause price increases and displacement that will drive residents out and change the 'culture' of the area. That is not up for debate.
Actually, this is totally wrong. The low and medium income households in this neighborhood are basically 100% living in rent-regulated housing. So there will be zero displacement.

The only people who could possibly be displaced are those in market rate housing, and the Lower East Side has some of the most expensive market rents in NYC, so it would just be rich folks being displaced by richer folks.

The LES could have nothing but superluxury $200 million apartments, and it could be the most expensive neighborhood on the planet, and it still wouldn't mean a thing in terms of displacing low and medium income residents. Their housing is not subject to the market.
     
     
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Ha. I was hoping you'd show up to smack down that ridiculous post. It will have no affect though. Over and over, the ignorance of thoughtless Nimbyism has proven itself incurable. Oh if only they could use their energy for good. The Drake hotel, Paul Rudolph's Orange County Government Center,; you know, noble pursuits. Instead they try to kill the MoMA tower, or a new Hudson River park on a pier, or a development over an open rail yard. And this, just so they don't have to walk an extra block to get their Cheetos.
     
     
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Extell marketing One Manhattan Square to Asian buyers first
Most units at 250 South Street priced between $1M to $3M

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New Yorkers will have to wait in line for an apartment at Gary Barnett’s One Manhattan Square condo tower on the Lower East Side, because Extell Development is marketing the project to Asian buyers first.

Extell will start sales for the 800-plus-unit building exclusively overseas, with Barnett targeting buyers in China, Malaysia and Singapore. Apartments at the 80-story tower, located at 250 South Street, won’t be for available Stateside until early next year.

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I can't say it's the most beautiful design ever. But I can say that I love the way it rises, 800 ft of sheer skyscraper wall towering over the Manhattan Bridge and the East River.
It will bee seen from everywhere, as it stands out from the pack(s).



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