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I hope the Ellington gets cancelled.
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From the Asheville Citizen-Times (03/16/08)

More condo projects in works
by Mark Barrett

ASHEVILLE — Despite weakness in the local housing market, developers apparently still think building condominiums in and around downtown Asheville is a good bet.

Developers recently applied for city approval of two projects that would bring 195 condominiums downtown and for a third with 180 condominiums nearby.

They are:

• The 150-unit Ravenscroft project, which would be in five six- and seven-story buildings on Ravenscroft Drive on the south side of downtown.

• A 180-unit condominium complex on the site of the former McCormick Heights, a subsidized apartment complex on Hunt Hill Place near McCormick Field that is now shut down.

• The 45-unit Parkside Condominiums building, which would be a few yards west of City Hall.

The news had local real estate analyst Don Davies scratching his head.

“All the numbers I’m looking at are bad news” and suggest downtown condos are not moving quickly, Davies said.

But David Payne, a partner in the Ravenscroft project, said research still shows strong interest among potential condo buyers: “Most of these people are saying, ‘Yes, put me on a wait list. I’m ready to go.’ ”

The city has also received an application for a 422-unit apartment complex that would be just west of the Toys ‘R’ Us and Ingles stores near Biltmore Square Mall.

Contact Mark Barrett at 828-232-5833, via e-mail at barrett@ashevill.gannett.com
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From the Asheville Citizen-Times (03/16/08)

More condo projects in works
by Mark Barrett

ASHEVILLE — Despite weakness in the local housing market, developers apparently still think building condominiums in and around downtown Asheville is a good bet.

Developers recently applied for city approval of two projects that would bring 195 condominiums downtown and for a third with 180 condominiums nearby.

They are:

• The 150-unit Ravenscroft project, which would be in five six- and seven-story buildings on Ravenscroft Drive on the south side of downtown.

• A 180-unit condominium complex on the site of the former McCormick Heights, a subsidized apartment complex on Hunt Hill Place near McCormick Field that is now shut down.

• The 45-unit Parkside Condominiums building, which would be a few yards west of City Hall.

The news had local real estate analyst Don Davies scratching his head.

“All the numbers I’m looking at are bad news” and suggest downtown condos are not moving quickly, Davies said.

But David Payne, a partner in the Ravenscroft project, said research still shows strong interest among potential condo buyers: “Most of these people are saying, ‘Yes, put me on a wait list. I’m ready to go.’ ”

The city has also received an application for a 422-unit apartment complex that would be just west of the Toys ‘R’ Us and Ingles stores near Biltmore Square Mall.

Contact Mark Barrett at 828-232-5833, via e-mail at barrett@ashevill.gannett.com
I think it's funny that all three of the major projects near downtown, each of which has been in the works for at least a year, and each of which has stirred up its share of discussion and controversy in some way or another, add up to a total of 365 units... contrast that with the 422-unit apartment complex behind Toys R Us and Ingles that has probably been in the works for about 8 weeks, contains more units, and will probably pass by without raising so much as a ripple of opposition or controversy.

The area along Sardis Road near Biltmore Square is still semi-rural. This is a prime example of, in spite of all the talk about densification and growing "up rather than out", the scales are still tipped overwhelmingly in the favor of suburban greenfield development.

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From the Asheville Citizen-Times (03/26/08)

Downtown hotels may go up as local demand stays strong
by Mark Barrett

ASHEVILLE – Hotel developers seem to think there will be a whole lot of sleeping going on downtown in a few years.

At least five different proposals to build more hotel rooms downtown have surfaced in the past couple of years, and other projects are making existing hotels more upscale.

The most recent, submitted to city government late last month, calls for construction of a 140-room upscale hotel, 350-space parking deck and 13,500 square feet of retail and office space on city-owned property across Haywood Street from the Civic Center.

If the recent history of development of residential condominiums downtown is a good guide, some of the proposals will be delayed and some will never come out of the ground.

The opposite could prove true with the hotel proposals, if only for two reasons.

The number of downtown hotel rooms has remained virtually flat for the past two decades. During that same 20-year period, the number of restaurants, shops and nightclubs downtown has grown exponentially.

“Downtown has been in such a transition. … It’s only natural that the lodging is going to follow,” said Marla Tambellini, director of marketing for the Asheville Convention and Visitors Bureau.

“It’s pretty amazing, really, that nobody has built” a downtown hotel in such a long time, city Economic Development Director Sam Powers said.

The economic slowdown may be hurting occupancy rates lately, but hotels and motels in Buncombe County in general have enjoyed strong demand in recent years, Tambellini said.

Total room sales revenue in the county was up 11 percent in 2005, 13 percent in 2006 and 8 percent last year, and the average room rate rose sharply during the same period, according to Convention and Visitors Bureau figures.

Newest plan

McKibbon Hotel Group, based in Gainesville, Ga., submitted a proposal to city government Feb. 29 to put a hotel, garage and retail space on property on Haywood Street and Page Avenue. The city bought the property in 2002 and 2003 in anticipation of building a much larger parking garage.

Opposition from the public and City Council killed the first garage proposal, so the city sent out requests for proposals for the property. McKibbon’s was the only one received by the deadline, Powers said.

The proposal shows a nine-story building with hotel and parking at the corner of Haywood and Page and says the hotel would be part of the Marriott, Hilton or Starwood families of brands. A two-story retail and office building would be located on Page Avenue near its intersection with Battle Square.

McKibbon is the same company that is exploring the possibility of putting a hotel and parking garage at the corner of Biltmore and Hilliard avenues in conjunction with city government and local downtown developer Public Interest Projects. The company has developed a number of more upscale hotels across the Southeast.

The proposal for Page and Haywood says McKibbon would build the parking garage in conjunction with the hotel. The city would buy the garage from McKibbon and lease back 149 spaces to the hotel.

The public version of the proposal doesn’t say how much the city would get for its property or pay McKibbon for the garage. Providing additional parking in the area around the Grove Arcade has been a long-term goal of city government.

Some city residents have a different goal, however: turning the property into a park.

“A lot of (building) projects take away green space,” said downtown resident Charlie Thomas, who was helped lead an informal effort to support the park. “Maybe it’s a chance for the city to give back a little green space, to say we’re not just about buildings.”

He says the idea has strong popular support: “When we went to get signatures for a petition to put a park there, it was about the easiest work I’ve ever done.”

Council is expected to consider McKibbon’s proposal this spring.

Coming attractions

The downturn in housing demand locally and nationally has pressured local developers, but officials with two planned hotel projects that would also include residential condominiums say the plans are still on track.

Developers of The Ellington, to contain 150 luxury hotel rooms and condominiums on Biltmore Avenue, plan to break ground late this year or in early 2009, spokeswoman Karen Tessier said.

That’s later than once projected. Developers did expanded market research because of changing conditions in the housing market, Tessier said, but haven’t changed their commitment to the project.

“We really don’t expect any problems, but we are being thoughtful every step of the way,” she said.

On the western end of downtown, work on the Hotel Indigo on the site of the former Asheville Area Chamber of Commerce building should begin in a few weeks, an official with that project said. It would have 100 hotel rooms and 12 residential condominiums.

Dennis Goodwin, head of a York, Pa., company that is developing the 23-story Hotel Indigo, one of a chain of boutique hotels started by the same company that owns Holiday Inn, said financing is in place: “It’s going to happen.”

Economic conditions are generally not as favorable as when the hotel was proposed, but Goodwin said such things run in cycles.

“We weathered the hotel markets through 9/11,” he said. “You can’t just stop. Asheville is a good market, and it’ll continue to be a good market.”

More tentative is a plan floated by developer Tony Fraga to build a hotel that could be as tall as 20 stories in the area around the Haywood Park Hotel. Fraga has discussed the idea with downtown businesspeople but has yet to unveil a formal proposal.

One change in the local hotel market is certain to happen. Owners of what has been the Best Western Asheville Biltmore are formally switching it to Four Points by Sheraton Asheville Downtown next week.

Renovations of the 150-room hotel took about a year and included putting a high-end steakhouse in a former nightclub space.

The change “gives us more of a chance to attract the higher-end guest,” said Angela Beattie, regional director of sales and marketing for hotel owner Hulsing Hotels.

That’s also the rationale behind changes at the Windsor Hotel on Broadway, which used to offer cheap rooms. A developer could not be reached for comment Tuesday on the status of renovations there.

Contact Mark Barrett at 828-232-5833, via e-mail at mbarrett@ashevill.gannett.com
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2008, 12:37 AM
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From the Asheville Citizen-Times

Fraga unveils plans for 25-floor hotel tower
by Dale Neal

ASHEVILLE – Looking to the future of the Haywood Park complex that he purchased last year, Tony Fraga took a page from the past.

In his plans to renovate the Haywood Park Hotel and adjacent properties between Page and Haywood avenues, Fraga wants to add a 25-story tower that E.W. Grove first envisioned to top the Grove Arcade in the 1920s. The new hotel with an ornate, gabled roof would stand alongside a more modern residential high-rise of 21 floors overlooking Haywood Avenue.

Fraga took his inspiration from the etching of Grove’s original blueprint for the tower at the corner of Page and Battery Park Avenues. “I saw that and knew it should have been built,” Fraga said Wednesday.

“I believe that cities have to grow vertically. Instead of developing subdivisions and increasing our dependency on foreign oil, we have to go up in downtown, not up into the mountains. And in this area, we have a tower that was already planned,” Fraga said.

To compliment the renovated Grove Arcade, Fraga envisions an arcade with retail space running from Page Avenue to Haywood Avenue, beneath the hotel tower with up to 225 rooms and into the residential tower, which would house about 94 units.

Fraga plans to add an additional 500 parking spaces underground, as well as convert the existing Haywood Park hotel space to office and retail space.

Fraga's FIRC Group bought the Haywood Park complex on the western side of downtown for $18.5 million last June. The properties include the hotel, Flying Frog Café, the Starnes Building and Haywood Atrium building on Haywood Street, a parking lot on Page Avenue and a retail building that houses Kostas' Menswear at 35 Battery Park Ave.

Fraga has been informally meeting with city planners, downtown merchants and residents and others. “The response has been very positive. I really haven’t heard from anyone at these meetings that said ‘I don’t like your project,’” he said.

Ruth Summers, executive director of the Grove Arcade Public Market Foundation, welcomed the potential project next door. “We’re very excited about what we’ve seen. As an Asheville resident, I would rather see infill downtown rather than sprawl. It’s good for downtown to have more retail and to increase the hotel room. And I love the additional parking.”

Fraga is talking with national hotel chains to develop his plans for the Grove tower, which could start at $25 million. The renovation of the rest of the Haywood Park could cost up to $100 million, the largest project Fraga’s company has undertaken. The FIRC Group also plans to renovate the Westgate shopping center with office and residential units, and to build Main Street at Enka Village, a mixed use development on Sand Hill Road.

Fraga's not worried that a potential recession in the coming year could spoil his plans. “This is my legacy project,” he said.

Contact Dale Neal at 828-232-5970, via e-mail at dneal@ashevill.gannett.com

Some renderings: http://www.fircgroup.com/residential...e/haywood-park

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I'm holding out on feeling any delight until I know whether any significant buildings are on the chopping block for this thing or not. Both the Pearlman's Furniture building and the Starnes Building are part of Asheville's art deco signature and must not be allowed to fall to make way for anything, no matter how grand. Letting a developer tear down any piece of art deco architecture in Asheville is akin to letting a developer take a letter out of the city's name.
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Exciting!

Let's hope this one happens soon, unlike others that seem to be permanently on hold.

Kudos to Fraga on wanting to build the tower in the style of the never-built Grove Tower. I can't wait to see renderings!
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That was the preliminary story, although the official story that appeared in today's paper doesn't say anything different. It does, however, offer renderings.

















Source: http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pb...D=200880402090
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AWESOME!

Build it, please!

I'm sure some would prefer the two towers look very similar, but I actually think the contrast in architectural styles works quite well. It's a reflection of Asheville's diversity in architecture.
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From the Asheville Citizen-Times (04/08/08)

Pack Square fountain gets modern touch with new design
by Paul Clark

ASHEVILLE – The Pack Square Conservancy has unveiled the design for a new fountain to be installed as part of the park’s reconstruction.

Consisting of a massive bronze ring encircling huge boulders, the design was conceived and will be executed by Asheville metal artist Hoss Haley.

Haley will begin work on the fountain soon and should be finished late this year, the conservancy said.

Renovations to the square are to be completed by the end of this year, and the entire Pack Square Park project should be finished by summer of 2009, said Donna Clark, spokeswoman for the conservancy.

The fountain, about 4 feet tall and 20 feet across, will cost $188,980 and will be paid for through a combination of foundation money, private donations and public funds, conservancy Executive Director Marilyn Geiselman said.

The new artwork will be the latest in a series of fountains that have graced the square since the 1800s.

“There has always been some kind of water structure on the square,” said Lou Harshaw, a regional historian and author of “Asheville: Mountain Majesty.” She believes a fountain was a feature of the European square that George Willis Pack had in mind when he donated the land for Pack Square in the late 1800s. “There have been at least 10 different fountains at Pack Square over time,” Geiselman said. “Our vision for the fountain was a return to the more historic form of fountain that has been there in the past, but with a modern twist. That’s what Hoss has done.”


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A new Pack Square fountain, shown here in an artist’s rendering, was designed by Asheville artist Hoss Haley.
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Updates?

Haundedheadnc, can you give us some updates?

The Hotel Indigo was supposed to have started construction by now. Has it? Hope so.

How about Zona Lofts? How is Capital Centre coming along?

Anything else going on? I know Ellington is dalayed (boo).
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Ellington delayed ? When did this happen ? Nothing of the sort was mentioned on UP.
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^In an earlier post by Haundedheadnc, quoting the Asheville Citizen-Times, it states, "Developers of The Ellington, to contain 150 luxury hotel rooms and condominiums on Biltmore Avenue, plan to break ground late this year or in early 2009, spokeswoman Karen Tessier said."

I think we originally thought it would have started this spring or summer.
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Gotcha. That's actually not too bad.
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Haundedheadnc, can you give us some updates?

The Hotel Indigo was supposed to have started construction by now. Has it? Hope so.

How about Zona Lofts? How is Capital Centre coming along?

Anything else going on? I know Ellington is dalayed (boo).
Sorry I didn't respond earlier, but since I moved to Asheville, I haven't had internet service.

The Hotel Indigo is going up on the old Chamber of Commerce site, and demolition on that building has begun.

A construction fence has gone up around the site of the Zona Lofts, and the Capital Center is almost done.
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Thanks for the updates, Hauntedhead!
Can't wait to be in Asheville again. Hopefully in the summer or fall I will take another trip.
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Which project is this? It's right next to the Thomas Wolfe house

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This (above) is 60 Market Street. Thank you for sharing a construction update!
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^And a nice-looking building it is shaping up to be!
Let's see more!!
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