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Old Posted Nov 29, 2016, 1:12 AM
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Who's Coming to Chicago-And Who's Leaving

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Who's coming to Chicago—and who's leaving
John Pletz
November 12, 2017

These are the cities Chicago won the most talent from, and lost the most talent to, in the past year, according to LinkedIn data....

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/asset...-charticle.jpg

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...d-whos-leaving
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2016, 1:14 AM
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Tech people moving from Chicago to SF/LA, those priced out of those regions moving to Chicago as it offers similar urban amenities at a fraction of the price.

Or so I would think.

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Not surprised to see that so many people from Chicago are moving or have moved to LA / SF.. I personally know about 10
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Not surprised to see that so many people from Chicago are moving or have moved to LA / SF.. I personally know about 10
Yeah I've noticed the same pattern. Very interesting.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2016, 5:23 AM
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Chicagoans moving south and west, no surprises here.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2016, 10:36 AM
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I'm surprised by the lack of connection with the east coast.
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Should UIUC count since most people are merely moving back to their hometown, like myself?
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2016, 3:47 PM
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Would be interesting to see similar graphics for other cities.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2016, 3:49 PM
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needs income and age numbers
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2016, 3:53 PM
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It's just LinkedIn data, not the true picture.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2016, 4:05 PM
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Van Lines has interesting data.

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For the third consecutive year, Oregon holds on to the No. 1 spot as “Top Moving Destination,” as Americans continue to pack up and head West and South. Those are the results of United Van Lines’ 39th Annual National Movers Study, which tracks customers’ state-to-state migration patterns over the past year.
Illinois:
In - 37%
Out - 63%

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In - 69%
Out - 31%
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Pulled by fellow forum member Marothisu a few months back, here's the ACS study of Chicago showing population changes from 2014 to 2015 by HHI (quantities represent number of households at each income level):

Under $10K: -2821 households | -2.5%
$10K - $14,999: -2650 | -4.4%
$15K - $24,999: +1742 | +1.4%
$25K - $34,999: +2286 | +2.3%
$35K - $49,999: -4003 | -3.2%
$50K - $74,999: -7346 | -4.4%
$75K - $99,999: +7395 | +7.3%
$100K - $149,999: +10,444 | +8.7%
$150K - $199,999: +4352 | +8.3%
$200K and higher: +11,618 | +19.6%
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I'm surprised by the lack of connection with the east coast.
I found this very interesting as well.
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I found this very interesting as well.
I assume there's something wrong with the data. I cannot imagine SF being the largest source for Chicago in- or out-migration, simply because SF isn't particularly populous.

How could SF draw more in-out migration, than, say, NYC or LA? Unless there is some obvious SF-Chi connection (and I can't think of one) it wouldn't make much sense to have 10x the proportional migration numbers as closer cities to Chi.

If I had to guess, the biggest in- and out-migration numbers would be to/from nearby metros. Detroit, Indy, Milwaukee, St. Louis, would be the leaders. If you meet someone in Chicago who's new in town, there's a good chance they're from a nearby Great Lakes-area state. If you meet a relocatee in Detroit or St. Louis or Twin Cities, there's a decent chance they're from Chicagoland.
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I assume there's something wrong with the data. I cannot imagine SF being the largest source for Chicago in- or out-migration, simply because SF isn't particularly populous.

How could SF draw more in-out migration, than, say, NYC or LA? Unless there is some obvious SF-Chi connection (and I can't think of one) it wouldn't make much sense to have 10x the proportional migration numbers as closer cities to Chi.
I agree it seems odd as well, but it could be possible with significant out-migration of people from the Bay Area being forced out by richer emigrants.
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I assume there's something wrong with the data. I cannot imagine SF being the largest source for Chicago in- or out-migration, simply because SF isn't particularly populous.
Selection bias for LinkedIn, probably. Seems like it has a high percentage of tech workers relative to the overall population, so naturally those moves (to/from the Bay Area) would be over-represented.

By contrast, the folks who relocate to New York or LA often work in writing, media, entertainment, etc where resumes are a lot more fluid, people often work on a project basis and not with salaried positions, and professional development doesn't happen through LinkedIn quite as much.
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Should UIUC count since most people are merely moving back to their hometown, like myself?
Yes, because, in theory, those leaving Chicago for UIUC should be counted in the departures.
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Yes, because, in theory, those leaving Chicago for UIUC should be counted in the departures.
Since most of them likely leave for UIUC as adolescents and return to Chicago as adults, it's possible that they're not counted in the departures: from the statistics' point of view, these Chicago kids would "spawn" as brand new adult Americans in Urbana-Champaign, then "relocate" to Chicago.
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I'm surprised by the lack of connection with the east coast.
I'm not. I've never thought to move there, and none of my friends have either.
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I'm not. I've never thought to move there, and none of my friends have either.
all of my friends who moved out of chicago went west. for the same reason people always have: better climate and to be in closer proximity to nature. east coast cities dont really offer anything unique beyond what Chicago already has offer.

access to the pacific ocean, forests, and mountains is a powerful draw. and in the case of LA, so is being able to eat dinner on your rooftop or in your backyard filled with flowers in January.
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