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Originally Posted by Cleveland Brown
No, you're a booster because no one cares about a subset of roadway when the overall picture is poor.
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I certainly care when I get to drive on those brand new roads. And when did I say the overall picture isn't poor. I've stated several times that the worst of the worst is the surface streets, aka the county roads.
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Brown
No one disagrees with you that many Michigan highways have been reconstructed, but even with recent and planned repairs Michigan's highways still won't be comparable to Ohio's highways and certainly not to Ohio's state, county, and local roads.
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When did I say otherwise? In fact, I remember specifically calling the county roads HORRIBLE several times, but I guess I'm a booster for merely mentioning the good things that Granholm started when she directed most road funding to maintaining and replacing current roads, rather than expanding or creating new roads. I never once stated that those efforts have allowed Michigan to surpass Ohio in road quality, but I guess saying one thing means something entirely different.
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Brown
And I'll take asphalt over concrete any day of the week.
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That's your opinion. I definitely prefer the long-term durability of concrete over asphalt. Especially in Michigan. Asphalt is generally in excellent condition for a season or two (depending on the weather and traffic), good condition for maybe three to five years, and fair to poor condition for maybe five to seven years (especially when heavily traveled by large trucks). After that it is nothing but cracks, potholes, bumps, waves, grooves, etc. Concrete on the other hand is often in excellent condition for a good five years, good condition for maybe a decade, and depending on various conditions fair to poor condition for ten to forty years.
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Brown
But, yes, please keep reminding us of that two-mile stretch of highway around Toledo that wasn't as nice as the brand new Wayne/Monroe county stretch of I-75.
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I will when you make comments like this:
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On I-75 northbound I'm always tempted to pull over for a (phantom) flat as soon as I cross over into Michigan.
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I'm not sure how you can get a flat tire on newly minted freeway, but whatever. And even when I say that, that doesn't mean I think Michigan has better roads than Ohio. On the contrary, clearly, many states have better roads than Michigan, but in the supposed example you give, it's clearly untrue...