New York Supertalls

[CityGuy87]

Originally Posted by hunser

Yeah, the crown is pretty tall hence the low floor count.
Also, it looks like we'll be getting a cool lighting scheme.

I was under the impression that the top portion of the tower would be for a public observation deck and event space.

[hunser]

10 Hudson Yards has T/O!!

Originally Posted by NYguy

[chris08876]

^^^^^

Seeing this topped out is such a tease for 30 Hudson. I mean in person, this thing looks massive. 30 Hudson will blow it out of the water.

Can't wait for its growth hormone brother to join the ranks.


Credit: http://skyscrapercenter.com/building...on-yards/13325

[hunser]

^ Yes, with 10 HY having topped out, the whole Hudson Yards is getting more on my radar. Now the real fun begins.
30 HY is exactly 300ft taller. It will be epic.

[hunser]

http://www.6sqft.com/could-this-othe...o-57th-street/

Could This Otherworldly 102-Story Tower Covered in Ornaments Be Coming to 57th Street?

Posted On Mon, December 7, 2015 By Ondel Hylton

Jaded by glass boxes and architectural imitations of styles gone by? Well this fascinating design by Mark Foster Gage Architects is sure to turn your architectural world upside down. Here’s our first look at their 102-story residential supertower seemingly flown in from some advanced airborne civilization in a galaxy far, far away. While details are scarce, this eagle lands in the heart of Midtown’s Billionaires’ Row along West 57th Street between Fifth and Sixth Avenues.

The whimsical design is a habitable sculpture of sorts, adorned from top to bottom in ornaments ranging from gears and propellers to an abstracted pair of birds diving in for a landing on two wing-supported balconies. The tower is topped by a temple-like observational platform which is then crowned by a golden wreath-like structure fit for any victorious Roman general.

Mark Foster Gage, who founded the firm bearing his name just one year ago, is a tenured professor and Assistant Dean at the Yale School of Architecture. The radical architect has dreamt up a crop of developments around the city and the world ranging from stores and outfits for Lady Gaga to sleek Manhattan condos. According to his profile page, his approach derives from a seemingly conflicting background of being a protégé of Robert A.M. Stern and a studio assistant to Frank Gehry.

In an INK talks presentation, Gage shares his interdisciplinary design approach that he says has been made possible by the incredible advances in material sciences and fabrication. Gage also presents a competition entry for a Guggenheim Museum in Helsinki, Finland, where a similar looking design to the Central Park tower was produced by downloading dozens of already made 3D models (like tyrannosaurus rex, file cabinets, Mickey Mouses) and recombining them to create a new architectural language. Gage says constructing entire surfaces of ornament is entirely possible since by making things robotically you can create forms with an unlimited amount of detail at the same price as doing something flat.

Though we are a bit skeptical that Gage’s 41 West 57th design will go forward, the firm’s project page lists its status as “ongoing.” Mark Gage tells us that they must stay mum on the details but the design was commissioned by a developer to see what might be possible in terms of ultra-luxury on that site. The depicted scheme does rise from a legitimate block-through development site comprised of the addresses 41-43 West 57th Street and 50 West 58th Street. The latter address held the home of the national women’s Jewish organization, Hadassah, who sold its building in 2012 for $71.5 million to the mysterious LLC, BOB 57. According to a 2012 Wall Street Journal story, Hadassah can occupy the 60,000 square-foot building for up to three years after the sale date but afterwards the building, along with two others parcels, will be redeveloped into a retail, office, hotel or condominium tower.

A few doors down at 29-35 West 57th Street, Steven Roth’s Vornado Realty Trust is reportedly planning a seven-star hotel, and across 58th Street at 36 Central Park West, a partnership led by the Witkoff Group plans a redevelopment of the Park Lane Hotel into soaring condominium tower. Another tidbit that has been churning in the rumor mill since 2013 is that Michael Shvo has been putting together a deal to build a 100-story tower near Central Park. Coruscant on the Hudson here we come.

Video Link

[hunser]

This looks insane, and my guess is it won't be built.

[hunser]

http://www.6sqft.com/skyline-wars-on...e-roof-height/



Conceptual image depicting all the proposed sites of the East Midtown rezoning fully built out. Courtesy TJ/CityRealty

As in the aforementioned cases, when such exceptions are grand, the urban soul is uplifted. Tall buildings are a very important part of New York’s character and spirit especially when they are magical. Great architecture amazes. And hopefully when One Vanderbilt and the collection of towers envisioned for East Midtown are finalized and built, they will astonish us.

[NoirYorkCity]

dat new concept tower with roman architecture is just too crazy and ugly! I really hope it wont get even approved... it just looks like someone's joke. And what the heck is that pic with whole bunch of new huge skyscrapers in midtown? Is it real?

[hunser]

Originally Posted by NoirYorkCity

dat new concept tower with roman architecture is just too crazy and ugly! I really hope it wont get even approved... it just looks like someone's joke. And what the heck is that pic with whole bunch of new huge skyscrapers in midtown? Is it real?

Don't worry, that design won't be built. But I'm pretty certain that something tall will rise at 41W57th, maybe even a supertall.

Re last pics: that's just a concept. It shows the potential of the Midtown East Rezoning. Expect many tall tower to rise in the near future. 1 Vanderbilt is just the beginning.

[WIGGLEWORTH]

Im a huge fan of the ornamentation. A bit overboard though.

[hunser]

Pretty hard quiz! --> http://www.ctbuh2015.com/quiz/

I got 1,4 and 5 right.

[chris08876]

A nice list that the banned (who should be back really for information and analysis sake) contributor JR/RW made regarding future and planned projects.

For sake of our collective knowledge regarding these topics, I think this list is excellent. Where "?" regards sites that have the potential to be either big or in a way, a suspense to their nature. The boom is still strong, and more to come.

I highlighted "on the boards section" in red because I feel its good to know. These may develop into something nice.

Especially...

1) 31 W 57th St
2) W 57th St.
3) 562 5th Ave

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Under construction (or in demo phase), about to begin construction, and/or very recently completed:

Nordstrom Tower (1,550')
One Vanderbilt Place (1,510')
111 W 57th St (1,440')
432 Park Ave (1,398')
1 WTC (1,350')
30 Hudson Yards/Time Warner HQ (1,290')
2 WTC/NewsCorp HQ (1,275')
125 Greenwich St Condo (1,000'+)
3 WTC/Group M HQ (1,150')
Tower Verre (1,075')
One57 Condo (1,050')
35 Hudson Yards (1,005')
Manhattan West (995')
4 WTC (990')
220 Central Park South (950')
520 5th Ave (950')
30 Park Place (930')
15 HY (915')
56 Leonard St (825')
50 West St. (800')
111 Murray St (800')
3 W 29th St (800')
15 E 30th St (775')
281 5th (?)
520 Park Ave (750')
Rose land Ballroom (750')
425 Park Ave (approx 750' to the roof)
610 Lexington Ave (700')
45 E 22nd St (750')
55. Hudson Yards (750')
50 United Nations Plaza (750')
252 E 57th St. (750')
3 Hudson Blvd. (1,050')
10 Hudson Yards/ Coach HQ (905')
118 E 59th St (600'?)
138 E 50th St. (800')
400 PAS

Completed in the past few years:

BofA (975')
Gehry Tower (875')
Goldman Sachs (750')
Time Warner (750')
Hearst (700')
400 Park Ave South (500'?)
NY Times (750')
11 Times Sq
7 Bryant Park
Bear Stearns (750')


On the boards:

666 5th Ave (1,400')

335 Madison (1,000'+)
Park Lane (1,000' +)
360 10th Ave (1,000'+)
80 South St (1,000'+)
50 HY (1,000'+)
Hudson Spire (1,000'+)
Subway Inn Site (1,000'+)
340 Flatbush (1,000'+)
Kaufu's Hudson Rise
99 Hudson
Extell's 1740 B'Way (1,000')
31 W 57th St (?)
16 W 57th St. (?)
562 5th Ave (?)

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Credit: robertwalpole
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Another insider also posted this in addition to the list above:

15 Penn Plaza
45 Park Place (642')
1st Avenue JDS towers
740 8th Avenue (Extell's TS assemblage)
148 West 48th Street
721 7th Avenue
Marriott Edition (500')
1656 Broadway (Qataris)
123 West 57th Street (Calvary Baptist Church)
41 West 57th Street (Hadassah)
45 Broad
42 Trinity

On the boards for the future:

650 Madison Avenue
The Grand Hyatt on 42nd Street
Hotel Roosevelt
assemblages that Vornado owns near Penn
Chetrit assemblage near Penn

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[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by hunser

http://www.6sqft.com/could-this-othe...o-57th-street/

Could This Otherworldly 102-Story Tower Covered in Ornaments Be Coming to 57th Street?

Posted On Mon, December 7, 2015 By Ondel Hylton

Quite the flight of fancy.

[hunser]

^ Good list. Many details of potential supertalls are still unknown unfortunately, hence I won't add them to the Supertall list. I know it sounds strict, but I think it's better this way. When we have a thread, renderings, the architect's/developer's name, design/height details and so on, I can add them.

Anyway, there are certainly lots of potential supertall sites. The boom is still strong.

[Crawford]

BIG is planning a supertall on the Upper East Side per NY Times and Crains NY. Address has not been revealed.

[hunser]

Originally Posted by Crawford

BIG is planning a supertall on the Upper East Side per NY Times and Crains NY. Address has not been revealed.

Could be this one: 145 East 60th St.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by hunser

Could be this one: 145 East 60th St.

I don't think that's the one, unless the architect changed.

145 E. 60 is being developed by Kuafu Properties and I think we have renderings from a different architect.

[hunser]

Originally Posted by Crawford

I don't think that's the one, unless the architect changed.

145 E. 60 is being developed by Kuafu Properties and I think we have renderings from a different architect.

Interesting. So we have two potential supertalls for the UES.

[chris08876]

Credit: http://www.6sqft.com/get-a-look-at-t...yline-in-2030/

[scalziand]

The gothic-deco-greco-romano tower, while admitted by the architect to be just a vision, does remind me that Schvo promised a 100 floor Central Park tower, so that lot and massing could fit the bill, even if that whackadoodle facade doesn't.