Downtown parking - thoughts

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Agreed in part.

Turnover of spots are key issues and as we saw last year with 'free' on-street parking leading to stagnation and annoyance.

Curious to see how they propose this and manage it.

curious to see how they justify free parking and the inherent problems that layers in while at the same time they're moving to pay parking for parks.

it's almost reminiscent of the city acquiring land in the quarters ostensibly to create shorter blocks that are more pedestrian oriented while at the same time combining the short blocks at blatchford ostensibly to create longer blocks that would be more pedestrian oriented.

[Coldrsx]

An interesting new APP for Downtown.

https://www.zipstall.com/localdollars

[Coldrsx]

Downtown workers would like cheaper parking, but consider the costs, says planner

March 3, 2022 · The Pulse
By Emily Rendell-Watson
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A survey for the Edmonton Downtown Business Association found that 60% of workers view the availability of discounted parking as a factor that would increase the likelihood of them choosing to return to work downtown.

But while discounting parking or making it free may seem like an attractive solution to reinvigorate the heart of the city, it’s not that simple, explained urban planner Neal LaMontagne.

“There’s no such thing as free parking. To discount that parking, somebody is paying for it,” he said. If it’s not the city, distributing the cost through taxes, then it’s the building manager or developer, or the employer, a factor that would likely be considered in setting wages.

Discounted downtown parking, which is expensive to build and maintain, would also provide a “tremendous incentive” to choose driving over other modes of transportation. This is problematic because the core has limited capacity to take an influx of cars. There are also environmental concerns that go beyond having more cars on the roads if the demand for parking increases.

https://edmonton.taproot.news/news/2...eid=b81cde227f

[feepa]

Many of those going back to work in office (vs WFH), for the first few months may only go back in a hybrid fashion 2-3 days a week, which increases the cost of parking as monthly pass is too expensive if not full time, and daily rates are not great for them either...
and while the CoE has let our transit stations turn further into transient and drug dens... transit is less and less of a desirable options.

[Airboy]

Originally Posted by feepa

Many of those going back to work in office (vs WFH), for the first few months may only go back in a hybrid fashion 2-3 days a week, which increases the cost of parking as monthly pass is too expensive if not full time, and daily rates are not great for them either...
and while the CoE has let our transit stations turn further into transient and drug dens... transit is less and less of a desirable options.

Our office is coming back on a hybrid for about a month. However If you do want to work from home they would still like you in at least 1 time a week.

[adam-machiavelli]

I suspect these latest gas prices are going to make many people reconsider mass transit.

[Coldrsx]

Win Win Win

[TimB09]

Originally Posted by adam-machiavelli

I suspect these latest gas prices are going to make many people reconsider mass transit.

Maybe a few people...doubt it causes a massive shift.

[EdmTrekker]

Originally Posted by feepa

Many of those going back to work in office (vs WFH), for the first few months may only go back in a hybrid fashion 2-3 days a week, which increases the cost of parking as monthly pass is too expensive if not full time, and daily rates are not great for them either...
and while the CoE has let our transit stations turn further into transient and drug dens... transit is less and less of a desirable options.

I agree. The City must create a Transit Police Force empowered to enforce laws - or have EPS structure a separate Police Transit Division to travel on and respond to issues on the trams.

Peace Officers are useless as they do not enforce the law and are nothing but high paid security guards that are unarmed and must call police to make an arrest. Transit Police should have a kiosk at every other station and certainly at the highest volume and problem stations during all operating hours.

We need this >. https://transitpolice.ca/about-us/ju...and-authority/

[Airboy]

Originally Posted by adam-machiavelli

I suspect these latest gas prices are going to make many people reconsider mass transit.

Figure I will see a lot more bikes on the paths this summer.

[DKaz]

Transit really hasn't been all that bad lately. At least not during normal commuting hours.

[adam-machiavelli]

I suspect that as more people return to the office, there will be more passive eyes on the platforms, trains, and buses; and a lot of the disorderly behaviour will quieten down. I am an optimist.

[DKaz]

Optimistic yes. But some of the attacks have been on busy platforms, trains, and buses.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by DKaz

Transit really hasn't been all that bad lately. At least not during normal commuting hours.

My wife has been taking the LRT since late November last year so it'll be interesting to see if she notices a difference going into Spring as far as disorder/sketchiness is concerned. She works anywhere from 8 AM - 4 PM to 1 - 9 PM so she sees the system at all times of the day.

[Coldrsx]

Not just a Downtown issue either, but a Central Edmonton one...

Old Strathcona parking lot sparks debate on how Edmonton leases public lands

Author of the article: Lauren Boothby
Publishing date:Mar 29, 2022 •

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/loc...s-public-lands

[Coldrsx]

Edmonton to crack down on vacant, illegal parking lots

Council directs city staff to outline options to turn parking lots into liveable areas

Natasha Riebe · CBC News
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...lots-1.6629571

[feepa]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Edmonton to crack down on vacant, illegal parking lots

Council directs city staff to outline options to turn parking lots into liveable areas

Natasha Riebe · CBC News
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...lots-1.6629571

years, perhaps decades overdue.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Edmonton to crack down on vacant, illegal parking lots

Council directs city staff to outline options to turn parking lots into liveable areas

Natasha Riebe · CBC News
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...lots-1.6629571

Question is, if anyone got a parking ticket at an 'illegal' parking lot, is it rendered null and void?

[trick91]

Originally Posted by Harrison

Question is, if anyone got a parking ticket at an 'illegal' parking lot, is it rendered null and void?

Parking tickets under any private lots don't mean much. They can't take it to collections even though they try to pretend like they can.

Only thing they can do is tow you the next time you park there.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by trick91

Parking tickets under any private lots don't mean much. They can't take it to collections even though they try to pretend like they can.

Only thing they can do is tow you the next time you park there.

So this is the difference with City-owned lots, which have more authority to enforce fines such as through vehicle registrations, right?

To stick it to the illegal parking lot owners, no one should pay for parking until those owners bring their lots into compliance.