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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality
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Of the many things I
would do for $5, this is not one. (No heights, please. I can't look down when I'm crossing a bridge . . . especially any and all bridges to/from Terminal Island. OK, maybe the old Pontoon Bridge would be all right...)
Gleanings from as much as I can recover from my own postings, on a Yahoo group, concerning the U.S. Hotel flagpole, with Ft. Moore flags/flagpoles thrown in as as a special bonus (the group is now very inactive; the search function works poorly for me; and,
sigh, one can’t copy and drop into a Word document)
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My posting (as with all of these), May 29, 2008:
In 1866, Phineas Banning gave Louis Mesmer a 109 foot tall flagpole which he had floated in from Oregon, and which Mesmer erected in front of the United States Hotel on Main St. When this hotel was finally razed in 1939, the pole was moved to the ground of the Court House, across Spring St. from City Hall. In 1959, after having been taken down, the pole was “restored to its site at the southwest corner of the Hall of Justice” (quoth the L.A. Times; it evidently had at some point traveled across Temple). […]
June 25, 2009:
More from the L.A. Times about the flagpoles (1. the Mesmer one; 2. the successive Fort Moore ones):
L.A. Times, December 19, 1903. “One hundred yards south of where the first American flag was raised in Los Angeles over fifty-six years ago, on the site of Fort Moore, two thousand people assisted yesterday in the exercises attending the raising of another flag. […] The exercises were held on a platform surrounding the base of the big flag pole, planted as everyone knows on the hill crowning the southern or city end of the Broadway tunnel. The big flag was unfurled from a pole 115 feet in height above the ground and buried fifteen feet in the ground. […] [Fort Moore] consisted of an earthen bank five feet high and inside of this was an adobe wall about as high. The fort proper extended along the bluff overlooking the plaza at the northeast corner of Broadway and Fort Moore Place, where the house of Dr. Le Moyne Wills now stands. […] [W]ithin its adobe enclosure on July 4, 1847, the first flag-raising took place, the pole being erected on the southwest corner of Fort Moore Place and Broadway.”
LAT, June 15, 1916. “[…]The first flagpole erected at Fort Moore was by the American troops who occupied the garrison of this city in 1847. The second flagpole erected was purchased by the Native Sons and patriotic societies of this city. This pole fell in 1914.” This in a story of the U.S. Daughters of 1812 providing a “flag, 22x11 feet in dimensions, [which] floats from a pole eighty feet high that was purchased and erected by the city.”
LAT, June 15, 1932. Story about the Daughters of 1812 again providing a flag to the pole above the Broadway tunnel.
LAT, April 7, 1939. “’Pioneer Park’ is the name suggested to the Board of Supervisors for the site of the old Courthouse north of the Hall of Records […]. The suggestion was made yesterday to Roger W. Jessup, chairman of the Board of Supervisors, by Joseph Mesmer, pioneer Los Angeles resident who is interested in the preservation of historical things in the county. […] Mesmer also informed the Supervisors that he is ready to present to the park a ‘Liberty Pole’ which was given to his family in 1866 by Phineas Banning and which for many years has stood in front of the old United States Hotel, soon to be razed.”
LAT, September 2, 1939. “As traditional in Los Angeles as the American Flag itself, the ‘oldest flagpole,’ bright in shiny aluminum paint, was dedicated yesterday in its new location on the old Courthouse grounds. […]
LAT, July 4, 1941. “[…] Daughters of the War of 1812 come into their share of the [freeway, alias ‘speed-highway’] project because they have been custodians of Ft. Moore since 1916, when they erected the flagpole above the Broadway Tunnel. Removal of the tunnel necessitates the moving of the flagpole which will be standing before Central High School, on the Ft. Moore Hill site of old Los Angeles High School. […]”
The 1941 story is interesting because the proposal was evidently to MOVE the Baker Block. Also in the plans were restoration of the Lugo House and the rebuilding of the priest house and gardens of the Plaza Church.
LAT, March 8, 1959. “The historic old Mesmer flag pole, a Los Angeles landmark since Civil War days, was restored yesterday to its site at the southwest corner of the Hall of Justice in ceremonies attended by Supervisor Ernest E. Debs and officials of the Historical Society of Southern California. Debs’ deputies, responding to a query from Guy E. Marion, HSSC executive secretary, found the 80-foot Oregon fir in county yards where it had been stored for several years since it was taken down during construction of a tunnel connecting the Hall of Justice with its nearby steam plant.”
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Back to 2014: We of the group were keeping an eye on the Banning/Mesmer/U.S. Hotel flagpole as best we could . . . and suddenly it disappeared.
Someone in charge of or at the construction site at the time has to know what happened to the pole . . .