Calgary Roads

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Corndogger

Like Edmonton's system the freeway you're referring to will be a complete belt around the city. It's 3/4 done with the last two parts (the work is being split due to the size of the overall project) being done now.

Given Vancouver's near nonexistent road system wouldn't you want a lot more than a tad? To effectively and efficiently move goods and people you need a good road system. Not everyone is going to live in TOD developments nor wants to. No, the road being built in Calgary is not going to result in more sprawl but it will help people who live on the edges of the city get to where they need to go a lot faster than if they had to rely on a road network as bad as Vancouver's. If Vancouver were to build one decent freeway the demand for more would appear over night.

Vancouver doesn't have a "near-nonexistant" road system. The major problem (other than Nimbys and $$$) is the geography of the region.
Whereas Calgary is built on the wide prairie, Vancouver is hemmed in: mountains to the north and the American border to the south. Protected farmland to the east, and ocean to the west.
The city central area and the wealthier suburbs are all to the very west, and there isn't any space to built anything like your ring road without demolishing a neighbourhood, all by the ocean.
In the case of Vancouver, geography plays a major role in determining the development of the city, far moreso I think, than in Calgary.

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Vancouver doesn't have a "near-nonexistant" road system. The major problem (other than Nimbys and $$$) is the geography of the region.
Whereas Calgary is built on the wide prairie, Vancouver is hemmed in: mountains to the north and the American border to the south. Protected farmland to the east, and ocean to the west.
The city central area and the wealthier suburbs are all to the very west, and there isn't any space to built anything like your ring road without demolishing a neighbourhood, all by the ocean.
In the case of Vancouver, geography plays a major role in determining the development of the city, far moreso I think, than in Calgary.

What major roads does Vancouver have? I'm not buying the geography excuse because other cities have similar or worse problems and have some great road networks. Vancouver's problem is that Nimbys and environmentalist control the politics of the region and the province is afraid to take action. Lack of planning is also a problem. One last comment, Calgary is built on the wide prairie?

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Vancouver doesn't have a "near-nonexistant" road system. The major problem (other than Nimbys and $$$) is the geography of the region.
Whereas Calgary is built on the wide prairie, Vancouver is hemmed in: mountains to the north and the American border to the south. Protected farmland to the east, and ocean to the west.
The city central area and the wealthier suburbs are all to the very west, and there isn't any space to built anything like your ring road without demolishing a neighbourhood, all by the ocean.
In the case of Vancouver, geography plays a major role in determining the development of the city, far moreso I think, than in Calgary.

Agree with you. Fully apples and oranges when talking Calgary and Vancouver.

Don't mind Cornydog - he's always looking for an argument even when one doesn't exist.

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by suburbia

Agree with you. Fully apples and oranges when talking Calgary and Vancouver.

Don't mind Cornydog - he's always looking for an argument even when one doesn't exist.

Wrong as usual. He should just ignore you if he's serious about this topic.

[speedog]

Well not all is lost because I learned that Vancouver now abuts the border.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by speedog

Well not all is lost because I learned that Vancouver now abuts the border.

Vancouver itself does not, in fact abut the US border. Drive south, get on the southbound freeway and you leave the suburbs and go through farmland. The border is at White Rock.

[People_talking]

Hey all, dumb question. Does anyone here have a map/ diagram of vehicles per day in the downtown core/ Beltline as well as on the skeletal roads?

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by People_talking

Hey all, dumb question. Does anyone here have a map/ diagram of vehicles per day in the downtown core/ Beltline as well as on the skeletal roads?

The City's traffic volume maps sounds like what you're looking for:

https://www.calgary.ca/Transportatio...flow-maps.aspx

[jawagord]

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[craner]

Anyone know why the south side 16th Ave. at the Bowfirt Rd. overpass has portable jersey barriers separating the shoulder ? It almost looks like a bike lane but it just ends on the east side.
Looks junky.

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by craner

Anyone know why the south side 16th Ave. at the Bowfirt Rd. overpass has portable jersey barriers separating the shoulder ? It almost looks like a bike lane but it just ends on the east side.
Looks junky.

I thought the same thing the last time I drove thru that area. I wonder if the art installation has something to do with it? I'm thinking that maybe people had to either install fix something down below and they decided to make it as safe as possible for them.

[msmariner]

Originally Posted by craner

Anyone know why the south side 16th Ave. at the Bowfirt Rd. overpass has portable jersey barriers separating the shoulder ? It almost looks like a bike lane but it just ends on the east side.
Looks junky.

I believe it has something to do with a future ramp from COP coming onto 16th. I asked PCL that question a few years ago when I was working on that job

[craner]

^Thanks for answering my question.

[Corndogger]

Received an email this afternoon about the Crowchild Tr. project. Looks like we're into the final stages and will soon see some permanent changes. I kind of wish they wouldn't go back to having lights as it was so way slower than it is now.
________________

We’d like to provide you with a few updates relating to the Crowchild Trail Upgrades Project:

1) New Signalized Crossing: Parkdale Boulevard & Kensington Road N.W.

Goes into effect today - Thursday, September 5

We have installed a brand-new signalized crossing along Parkdale Boulevard so pedestrians and cyclists have a dedicated, more direct connection to the Bow River Pathway Network. You may notice some traffic control on-site later this afternoon and evening while the signalized crossing is being officially activated.

2) New Signalized Intersection: 10 Avenue S.W. & Bow Trail

Goes into effect this Saturday, September 7

The road and tie-in work is complete and the new signalized intersection will go into effect on Saturday. This means that police officers will be on-site directing and managing traffic temporarily while the signals are being activated. Please drive slowly through the area and allot a bit of extra time if you’re going that way.

3) Home Stretch Of Roadwork Along NB Crowchild Trail & EB Bow Trail Area

Friday, September 6 (9 p.m.) – Tuesday, September 10 (5 a.m.)

We are entering the final push to complete the majority of roadwork along the northbound Crowchild Trail/eastbound Bow Trail S.W. area. This final push entails milling and paving work, along with an increase in construction activity this weekend.

What does an increase in construction activity entail?

• An increase in loud, disruptive overnight work (including asphalt milling and paving on Sunday and Monday nights respectively) between the hours of 9 p.m. – 5 a.m.
• An increase in the number of workers on-site.

[msmariner]

Originally Posted by Corndogger

Received an email this afternoon about the Crowchild Tr. project. Looks like we're into the final stages and will soon see some permanent changes. I kind of wish they wouldn't go back to having lights as it was so way slower than it is now.
________________

We’d like to provide you with a few updates relating to the Crowchild Trail Upgrades Project:

1) New Signalized Crossing: Parkdale Boulevard & Kensington Road N.W.

Goes into effect today - Thursday, September 5

We have installed a brand-new signalized crossing along Parkdale Boulevard so pedestrians and cyclists have a dedicated, more direct connection to the Bow River Pathway Network. You may notice some traffic control on-site later this afternoon and evening while the signalized crossing is being officially activated.

2) New Signalized Intersection: 10 Avenue S.W. & Bow Trail

Goes into effect this Saturday, September 7

The road and tie-in work is complete and the new signalized intersection will go into effect on Saturday. This means that police officers will be on-site directing and managing traffic temporarily while the signals are being activated. Please drive slowly through the area and allot a bit of extra time if you’re going that way.

3) Home Stretch Of Roadwork Along NB Crowchild Trail & EB Bow Trail Area

Friday, September 6 (9 p.m.) – Tuesday, September 10 (5 a.m.)

We are entering the final push to complete the majority of roadwork along the northbound Crowchild Trail/eastbound Bow Trail S.W. area. This final push entails milling and paving work, along with an increase in construction activity this weekend.

What does an increase in construction activity entail?

• An increase in loud, disruptive overnight work (including asphalt milling and paving on Sunday and Monday nights respectively) between the hours of 9 p.m. – 5 a.m.
• An increase in the number of workers on-site.

Think your confused with what your calling lights.
-Kensington/parkdale is a pedestrian crossing. Not traffic signals
-10 ave / Bow need to be a signal. Turned into a dual left turn wb/sb. Therefore needs to have a signal. It’s under crowchild anyways

[Mazrim]

The old setup for people going from Eastbound Bow trail to Northbound Crowchild was pretty confusing for anyone who wasn't familiar with the area. In a very short distance you need turn right, switch lanes multiple times into a tiny left turn lane, turn around and go the other way and then turn left again. While those of us who have been through it a few times don't mind it, it can be rough for someone new to the area or a visitor, and in heavy traffic it's pretty rough.

[ggopher]

The Government of Alberta has identified $209.8 million for work on Deerfoot Trail. Of this, $110.1 million is included in Budget 2019’s four-year capital plan and another $99.7 million is identified in future years beyond the four-year capital plan.

This is much needed money to improve Deerfoot. But $210 million doesn’t go very far. They didn’t present the specific projects that will be completed. But there was a report that identified 5 short term fixes to Deerfoot.

https://www.calgary.ca/Transportatio....aspx#fiverecs

[milomilo]

That sounds like barely anything, like enough to do one or two of the easier interchanges.

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by milomilo

That sounds like barely anything, like enough to do one or two of the easier interchanges.

$110 million over four years won't be enough to do any interchanges. It doesn't look like much thought was put into these delays/cutbacks.

[milomilo]

Deerfoot plans released:

https://calgary.ca/deerfoot

It shows the scale of the problem that despite there being a lot of work here, it still doesn't look crazy ambitious. Lots of interesting stuff in there, particularly around Memorial/17th with roads being diverted completely.