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Old Posted Sep 7, 2020, 4:28 AM
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And what do you call the act of the collection of funds so there is any to allocate? Is it not called a tax?
You can not allocate funds without first collecting taxes.
Of course. That just isn't what I was getting at with the per capita numbers at all. That would be a very weird way of contextualizing a sales tax.
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2020, 5:44 AM
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Well, actually no. In this section, I'm not talking about taxation at all but instead responding to Quixote's point about construction costs.

The per capita figures under each of the subareas indicate how much would be spent in each subarea in my hypothetical countywide measure, divided by the total subarea population. It is intended to illustrate how in a countywide tax measure, you can raise money from the suburbs (total population 7,586,304, per capita transit expenditures $10,572) and spend it in Central LA and the Westside (total population 2,511,491, per capita transit expenditures $26,104), thus spending more in Central LA than you would if you implemented an additional sales tax in the City of LA alone.
Yes, I agree with you. You are showing per capita expenditures, not anything about the tax burden. As you see from his subsequent posts, electriciron thinks you are talking about the amount of tax each individual would feel.

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I am not re-defining what per capita means, you are.
From Webster,
1 : per unit of population : by or for each person
the highest income per capita of any state in the union
2 : equally to each individual

The root is Latin, Per capita is a Latin prepositional phrase: per (preposition, taking the accusative case, meaning "by means of") and capita (accusative plural of the noun caput, "head"). The phrase thus means "by heads" or "for each head", i.e., per individual/person.

Over 2000 years this phrase has meant one thing, now all of a sudden you wish to change its’ meaning. Oooooooooooooooooooooooh!

I was not commenting In favor or in opposition to the tax, just on the usage of per capita to reflect on what the amount of taxes every individual would feel. Why, because these taxes are not collected equally, so using a data point that assumes that is entirely wrong.
He is only showing how it would be expended—how the revenues would be spent, not how it would be collected. It is not the “amount of taxes every individual would feel” it is how much would be spent on that region from the tax revenues, in relation to the population. The amount of sales tax collected from a region can be readily estimated. You can choose to divide how you spend the tax collected to subregions on a disproportionate basis, and he uses “per capita” spending to reflect how he would allocate the revenue.
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Yes, I agree with you. You are showing per capita expenditures, not anything about the tax burden. As you see from his subsequent posts, electriciron thinks you are talking about the amount of tax each individual would feel.


He is only showing how it would be expended—how the revenues would be spent, not how it would be collected. It is not the “amount of taxes every individual would feel” it is how much would be spent on that region from the tax revenues, in relation to the population. The amount of sales tax collected from a region can be readily estimated. You can choose to divide how you spend the tax collected to subregions on a disproportionate basis, and he uses “per capita” spending to reflect how he would allocate the revenue.
You got my point with the first paragraph. If we look at it the opposite way, as an expenditure instead of a tax; I still dislike the usage of per capita data point. I would rather see it as a per transit user expenditure vs a per person within the county. not everybody is going to ride public transit, ever. But that is just my opinion. A per capita data point is still not real! That is the point I am trying to make!
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Another Push to Speed Up Metro's Street-Running Light Rail Lines

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- With Metro on the cusp of adopting a service plan for the new Regional Connector subway in Downtown Los Angeles, several members of the agency's Board of Directors have renewed a push to address sluggish street-running sections of the three light rail lines which will feed into the nearly two-mile tunnel. --- A motion adopted earlier today by the Board's Operations Committee directs Metro staff to begin to identify potential fixes to segments of the A (Blue), E (Expo), and L (Gold) Lines that frequently cause delays in service. --- Metro staff has also been instructed to report on options for reconfiguring the Washington Boulevard - Flower Street wye, where the A and E Lines intersect in their street-level approach to 7th Street/Metro Center Station. A 2017 report to the Metro Board indicated that potential fixes to the roughly one-mile stretch of at-grade track could include full or partial grade separation as far north as Pico Station.

The potential grade separations, as well as improvements to signal priority, are expected to allow the A Line to cut its end-to-end travel time by approximately 10 minutes. The full trip on the 22-mile line between Downtown Los Angeles and Long Beach is currently expected to take 53 minutes - down from the 58 minutes prior to the $350-million "New Blue" refurbishment project. The report direction by the motion, which is scheduled to be delivered in January 2021, is also asked to identity $30-million in funding for the improvements. --- Metro's renewed focus on signal priority comes as the Regional Connector is expected to merge three light rail lines into two: a north-south corridor between Long Beach and Azusa and an east-west corridor connecting East Los Angeles with Santa Monica. While the completed project is expected to be a boon to the agency's ridership, Metro staff reports have indicated that indicated that more consistent service on the rail lines feeding into the connector.

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The potential grade separations, as well as improvements to signal priority, are expected to allow the A Line to cut its end-to-end travel time by approximately 10 minutes. The full trip on the 22-mile line between Downtown Los Angeles and Long Beach is currently expected to take 53 minutes - down from the 58 minutes prior to the $350-million "New Blue" refurbishment project. The report direction by the motion, which is scheduled to be delivered in January 2021, is also asked to identity $30-million in funding for the improvements.
A few comments. LA trains don't have "signal priority", they have signal synchronization and that's the terminology in the actual motion. The other thing is that the A (blue) line was closed for months for the refurbishment, but it doesn't achieve the speeds promised. It's essentially the same as before, which makes sense because they didn't actually do anything that would increase the speed of any one trip. They did work that increased the overall reliability. Lastly, this is all because of the connector that will combine services through downtown for both the A line and E lines and the predicted delays to to their respective street running portions.
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North Hollywood-to-Pasadena rapid bus route proposal moves forward

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- Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority officials have released the draft environmental report and opened a public review period for a proposed North Hollywood-to-Pasadena rapid bus line. Metro officials said they will hold virtual public hearings to provide information and gather feedback from residents on the project. The public comment period runs through Dec. 10. The $267 million, 18-mile project aims to build a rapid transit bus line that will connect the San Fernando and San Gabriel valleys, traveling east-west between the North Hollywood Metro B (Red)/G (Orange) Line Station and Pasadena City College, with stops in downtown Burbank, Glendale and Eagle Rock, depending on the route option.

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Los Angeles Metro Rail and BRT Existing/Under Construction/Planned


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Currently under construction

Los Angeles D line extension

This is a fully underground extension of the existing fully underground D line subway.
  • Section 1 has 3 new stations and is currently on schedule to open in late 2023
  • Section 2 has 2 new stations and is ahead of schedule for opening in 2025.
  • Section 3 has 2 new stations and is slightly behind schedule, but still on track on to open in late 2027 in time for the 2028 Olympics, which is housing athletes at UCLA.
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Go Ossoff and Warnock! Dems won't hold the majority, but they could have the upper hand with the VP (Harris) being the tie-breaking vote. Fingers crossed that we get FFGAs for Crenshaw North and SFV-Westside HRT.
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Wilshire/La Brea station about a month ago. Love the concavity of the station box... more elegant looking.

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Old Posted Nov 8, 2020, 1:11 AM
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Go Ossoff and Warnock! Dems won't hold the majority, but they could have the upper hand with the VP (Harris) being the tie-breaking vote. Fingers crossed that we get FFGAs for Crenshaw North and SFV-Westside HRT.
Agreed. And even if we end up in the minority, there is literally nobody better to negotiate transit funding than Amtrak Joe.
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The future is also very bright for California HSR.
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And, by extension, Metrolink.
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The future is also very bright for California HSR.
Hopefully.

Side Note: I'm excited for the West Santa Ana LRT. I've always felt that Metro has all but ignored the gateway cities in terms of rail expansion (No, the green line doesn't cut it). I'd also like to see the El Monte busway be converted to rail one day and get extended. Has that ever been considered?
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Thoughts on Phil Washington and/or Eric Garcetti being considered for transportation-related posts in the new administration? I think Washington has done a terrible job as Metro's leader, so it's kind of perverse (and a bit nonsensical) that I'm sort of hoping he's tapped for a position.
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An update on the 6th Street Bridge / Viaduct - its difficult to express the enormity of project in pictures as it spans nearly a mile over the LA river from Boyle Heights to the Arts District. The arches are starting to take shape now on the Boyle Heights side.







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An update on the 6th Street Bridge / Viaduct - its difficult to express the enormity of project in pictures as it spans nearly a mile over the LA river from Boyle Heights to the Arts District. The arches are starting to take shape now on the Boyle Heights side.
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It looks like the regional connector will not have flying crossovers, at least not at the east end of the new subway. Look at 1:20:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zRK1oPjOuc

For all of the money they're spending on this it's amazing that they skimped on this detail. The lines are so long that it's going to be difficult to consistently stagger the trains and avoid delays at these at-grade junctions during rush hour service.
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