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sadykadie2 · #**45301** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 6:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis

Here in Bungalow Heaven, Pasadena, we have a massive flock of compact African-type parrots that tend to spend the night in the trees surrounding our property (they tend to avoid our property, despite our massive trees, because we have three big dogs and a vital crow community). In the morning, they leave in a number of groups (like individual platoons in a company) in different directions. Near dusk, they return, all at the same time, swirl around in a massive avian tornado, then light in a number of trees in the area.

When we lived in Culver City, we had a sizable platoon of Australian long-tail parakeets (sleek, colorful birds, 15 to 18 inches long).

We have huge flocks, very loud and squawking every day here in Glendora ( about 20 miles East of Pasadena), but we had them in Costa Mesa ( 50 miles South) My daughter is a biology student and says they come from Mexico

CityBoyDoug · #**45302** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 2:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by sadykadie2

We have huge flocks, very loud and squawking every day here in Glendora ( about 20 miles East of Pasadena), but we had them in Costa Mesa ( 50 miles South) My daughter is a biology student and says they come from Mexico

I can believe you Sady. The people of Sydney, Australia are desperate to get rid of the thousands of parrots that are breeding in their suburbs...such as Blacktown. I have seen the damage they do there...like eating the covering off of telephone wires.

The screeching is horrendous.....day & night. People have let their ''pet'' parrots free...now we see the damage it does. Parrots are best left to their native jungle habitats where they come from..... such as South America, etc.

Earl Boebert · #**45303** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 3:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

I can believe you Sady. The people of Sydney, Australia are desperate to get rid of the thousands of parrots that are breeding in their suburbs...such as Blacktown. I have seen the damage they do there...like eating the covering off of telephone wires.

The screeching is horrendous.....day & night. People have let their ''pet'' parrots free...now we see the damage it does. Parrots are best left to their native jungle habitats where they come from..... such as South America, etc.

The Kea parrots on the South Island of New Zealand, which are indigenous, shred windshield wipers, door seals, and every other form of rubber on automobiles. We took a tour up in their mountain habitat and at every photo stop the guide stayed with van to guard against them.

Cheers,

Earl

CityBoyDoug · #**45304** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 4:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Earl Boebert

The Kea parrots on the South Island of New Zealand, which are indigenous, shred windshield wipers, door seals, and every other form of rubber on automobiles. We took a tour up in their mountain habitat and at every photo stop the guide stayed with van to guard against them.

Cheers,

Earl

Kea parrot destroying a windshield wiper

Ed Workman · #**45305** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 5:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

I can believe you Sady. The people of Sydney, Australia are desperate to get rid of the thousands of parrots that are breeding in their suburbs...such as Blacktown. I have seen the damage they do there...like eating the covering off of telephone wires.

The screeching is horrendous.....day & night. People have let their ''pet'' parrots free...now we see the damage it does. Parrots are best left to their native jungle habitats where they come from..... such as South America, etc.

Aren't the Galahs native?
Are they Parrots?

odinthor · #**45306** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 5:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's a bit of rare ephemera I just came across on ebay:

"PALM GARDEN DANCING PAVILION - INVITATION w STAMP - LOS ANGELES 1890 -1900's"

EBAY

[ . . . And lots more additional interesting stuff . . . Thanks, e_r!]

Some words on Palms are not called for, but that won't stop me . . .

For Southern Californians, Palms are familiar fellow "citizens" in our environment . . .

https://www.aada.edu/campuses/los-an...mpus-overview/

. . . so we generally don't tap into the overtones that they have, or had, for others who live in non-palmy areas.

In the Victorian era, and well into the Twentieth Century, and perhaps still just barely now, a Palm, especially an indoor palm, and most especially a Kentia Palm (Howea forsteriana) would carry much of the elite and luxurious air that an orchid might today because to have them at hand to decorate your home's living areas or personal ballroom--you do have a personal ballroom at your place, don't you?--one would need to have a Palm House or conservatory, as their cultural requirements are such that they wouldn't last long just sitting in your parlor, ballroom, or salon--nope, you'd have to be rotating them between the house and your conservatory, or just leaving them in the conservatory to be trotted out only for a few hours to ornament your social event.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...Palm_House.JPG

They would bestow an air of rarefied elegance on wherever they were sited.

cover, New Era Rag, 1919; odinthor collection

This would be just what hoteliers and restaurateurs would be after to give a high tone to their establishments; hence they would have facilities named Palm Garden, Palm Room, Palm Court, and so on, to emphasize the luxuriousness of what they had to offer, and would scatter specimens about their premises to reinforce in their customers and clients a notion of what a fine place they were visiting.

Hotel Virginia; odinthor collection

Scene from The Cocoanuts http://www.grouchoreviews.com/reviews/4980, re-sized and slightly cropped

And let us close with some entertainment . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwXVRIlw1t0
New Era Rag, by James Scott, 1919.

Ed Workman · #**45307** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 5:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by CaliNative

I don't think a noire or "neo-noire" needs to be always in black&white. Chinatown & L.A. Confidential & Day of Locust & Blade Runner (future noire dystopia) in color but dark noire in plot & attitude. OK, put Big Sleep in the contenders, but the plot is somewhat murky but has Bogey and the noire look & feel. My vote still goes to "Double Indemnity" with "Sunset Blvd" a close 2nd. Edward G. Robinson is terrific in DI, as are Stanwyck & the dude from "My 3 Sons".

You mean Fred M
If you wish to make a separate category " Neo-Noirish" I can go along .
But the bright clear air of the Owens valley ain't noire, no matter what the dialogue
and so on
For really noire what's the name of that border town movie with Orson Wells in heavy make-up- can't disguise the voice- and IIRC Janet Leigh and Charleton Heston?

Earl Boebert · #**45308** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 6:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ed Workman

You mean Fred M
If you wish to make a separate category " Neo-Noirish" I can go along .
But the bright clear air of the Owens valley ain't noire, no matter what the dialogue
and so on
For really noire what's the name of that border town movie with Orson Wells in heavy make-up- can't disguise the voice- and IIRC Janet Leigh and Charleton Heston?

"Touch of Evil." With the unforgettable Marlene Dietrich. So Noir it's almost opaque :-)

Cheers,

Earl

tovangar2 · #**45309** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 8:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by sopas ej

Did you like it? I've only seen it once, but I really enjoyed it.

Some may disagree, but I feel it has noirish qualities... Cynical tone/attitude, antihero protagonist, hint of sexual motivation...

Yes, I liked "Drive", although I don't know if I'd watch it again. I enjoy some stylish mayhem set against an LA backdrop. "Replacement Killers" (1998) is a favorite.

I dunno where to draw the line on if a film is noir or not. I guess I don't have a dog in that fight.

ethereal_reality · #**45310** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 9:13 PM**

Here's another piece of rare ephemera. (possibly found stashed away with the 'Palm Garden Dancing Pavilion' advertisement)

EBAY

Lew Dockstader's Minstrels, Mason Opera House, Los Angeles.

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Has anyone heard of this Lew Dockstader black-face dude?
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ethereal_reality · #**45311** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 9:18 PM**

Los Angeles Herald, June 1907

ethereal_reality · #**45312** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 9:25 PM**

Thanks so much for all the information on Catherine Sherman French and her extended family oldstuff.

I really appreciate it.
(I sent you a personal email as) -so check your mail.

ethereal_reality · #**45313** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 9:38 PM**

oops.

odinthor · #**45314** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 10:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's another piece of rare ephemera. (possibly found stashed away with the 'Palm Garden Dancing Pavilion' advertisement)

EBAY

Lew Dockstader's Minstrels, Mason Opera House, Los Angeles.

back

Has anyone heard of this Lew Dockstader black-face dude?
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Yep. We collectors of sheet music from that era see him on sheet music for songs he introduced or was associated with. In my own collection I have The Dockstader Rag of 1912, composed by Les Copeland. (I don't like it very much.)

http://castleragtime.com/ragtime-sheet-music/the-dockstader-rag

ethereal_reality · #**45315** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 10:40 PM**

You must have quite a sheet music collection odinthor!

Do you have 'The Sweetheart of Sigma Chi'? (I was a Sigma Chi many moons ago......and NO, I wasn't the 'sweetheart')

CityBoyDoug · #**45316** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 10:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

Thx, I kept missing "Drive" (2011), but finally saw it today.

Worth watching?

https://www.filmink.com.au/wp-conten...6/04/combp.jpg

odinthor · #**45317** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 10:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

You must have quite a sheet music collection odinthor!

Do you have 'The Sweetheart of Sigma Chi'? (I was a Sigma Chi....many moons ago)

Thanks!

Alas, no (about Sigma Chi). Mostly I've concentrated on instrumentals (cuz I like to sit down at the keyboard and play 'em; songs, probably the world doesn't need to hear my singing).

I have the inventory of my collection online (with some pictures): http://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/music.html

ethereal_reality · #**45318** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 10:48 PM**

I'll have to check out your inventory odinthor. thx for the link.

ethereal_reality · #**45319** Posted **Feb 3, 2018, 12:11 AM**

Well, this is now a mystery photograph because I lost the information

(I was at my mom's house when I came across it)

I can say it's somewhere in the valley (which doesn't narrow it down much, does it)

? Ill let you know if/when I find the source again

The church is lovely, but I mostly wanted to comment on the RR. sign. I don't believe I have ever seen one like it.

and with the raised letters...it looks like it might light-up!

Any rail fans familiar with this type of r.r. sign in the Los Angeles area?

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WS1911 · #**45320** Posted **Feb 3, 2018, 3:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Well, this is now a mystery photograph because I lost the information

(I was at my mom's house when I came across it)

I can say it's somewhere in the valley (which doesn't narrow it down much, does it)

? Ill let you know if/when I find the source again

The church is lovely, but I mostly wanted to comment on the RR. sign. I don't believe I have ever seen one like it.

and with the raised letters...it looks like it might light-up!

Any rail fans familiar with this type of r.r. sign in the Los Angeles area?

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I think the church is St. Charles Borromeo Catholic Church, 10800 Moorpark, North Hollywood.

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