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Originally Posted by tablemtn
The magnitude of 2016's rise relative to 2015 won't be made official until the 2016 UCR is released sometime this fall. But considering that forensics and trauma medicine continue to improve each year - and considering that the US's median age is rising, which is associated with lower murder rates - this kind of sharp, two-year rise definitely shouldn't be dismissed as "nothing."
In raw numbers, we may be talking about over 3,000 additional murders above where we'd be had we simply maintained the 2014 rate.
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But even raw numbers can distort reality. That just indicates how low the numbers had got by 2014 compared to say, 1974.
Consider a $1,000 investment that loses 50% over 20 years and is thus $500, it rises 20% over two years to reach $600. That is a big increase in percentage terms but it is still a long way from the original number.
Here are some numbers :
NYC had 2,245 murders in 1990. NYC had 352 murders in 2015.
Oakland had its highest murder count in 1992, with 175 murders. Last year, Oakland had 89 murders.
San Francisco saw its highest murder count in 1993, with 129 murders. Last year the city had 52 murders.
Further info is available here:
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/due...n-crime-trend/
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
The number of homicides reached an all-time high of 24,703 homicides in 1991 then fell rapidly to 15,522 homicides by 1999.
Between 1999 and 2008, the number of homicides remained relatively constant, ranging from a low of 15,552 homicides in 1999 to a high of 17,030 homicides in 2006. These homicide numbers were still below those reported in the 1970s, when the number of reported homicides first rose above 20,000 (reaching 20,710 in 1974).
So, taking your logic, if murders had just stayed at 1974 raw numbers, the USA would have had 6,500 more murders in 2016 instead of 3,000.
Raw numbers are also problematic because you are looking at calendar years which can distort the fact that murders are by their nature randomly distributed in time and location.
So, yes it is nothing compared to what it could have been. And Donald is often lying even when he is telling the truth.