Winnipeg | Forks Redevelopment | Parcel 4 - Rail Side Initiative | Proposals

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

You've seen them?

Not all but several.

[oftheMoon]

^^^ Any idea on the time line on this? Particularly when can we expect to see some development starting?

[bomberjet]

The staggered, angled thing then I guess. Almost reminds me of a "towers in the park" or "suburban projects" type thing. Hopefully the buildings are nice and the spaces in between well used.

[Urban recluse]

I am looking forward to this.

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by oftheMoon

^^^ Any idea on the time line on this? Particularly when can we expect to see some development starting?

This year will be testing and pre-work, shovels to go in the ground spring 2018. They expect a 20 year build-out of both sites (Railside + Parcel 4), making a building or two each year. It will start right beside citytv and slowly work north over time.

[Urban recluse]

Unacceptable. A project like Ciyplace in Toronto, sure, but something on this scale? Come on, this is a five year project.

[Riverman]

Projects are developed based on need not schedule. Can't have buildings sitting empty for years.

[esquire]

For what it's worth, The Forks has always moved fairly slowly but to their credit, they haven't had many missteps. Also, even a couple of new buildings will make quite a difference in how that part of the area feels.

Nice thing about holding out a while is that they could always go bigger down the line if demand increases.

[buzzg]

I agree that it's a little long, but it also could be sped up easily if the need/desire for the developments grows faster than expected. The main reason they've projected this is because it's being subdivided, rather than just build 20 of the same building like it's in Linden Woods. It will make for a much more diverse and interesting area. Also, better to under-promise and over-deliver.

[Roger Strong]

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

Unacceptable. A project like Ciyplace in Toronto, sure, but something on this scale? Come on, this is a five year project.

The condo market here isn't as hot. Not with other condo tower projects being built.

So you build the first condo tower and sell units with nice uninterrupted views on all sides. THEN you build another tower next to it. With nice uninterrupted views on three sides. THEN you build the next tower on the other side....

(I recall a new condo development downtown around 15 or 20 years ago with nice river views. And almost immediately another condo development blocked the view. There was a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth. I knew someone in the Rideau Tower who was really upset by Fort Garry Place blocking his view.)

[Urban recluse]

Originally Posted by Riverman

Projects are developed based on need not schedule. Can't have buildings sitting empty for years.

Based on this location, rental units and condos would move faster than any other area of downtown IMO.

[blueandgoldguy]

I'm concerned the noise from the trains right next to this development may limit its appeal.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

I'm concerned the noise from the trains right next to this development may limit its appeal.

You can barely hear the trains passing by when walking along Waterfront Drive (or Israel Asper Way, or whatever it's called now) at The Forks. I can't imagine that it would be much of an issue.

There's a pretty loud squeal when the trains round the curve by Canwest Park, but that's not a problem that will have much of an effect on this project.

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

I'm concerned the noise from the trains right next to this development may limit its appeal.

There's several condos and a housing development along Taylor right by the tracks, and on Sterling Lyon. Fort Rouge Yards is built along a BRT and train line. Non-issue IMO. People live all along freeways in NA which are much louder.

[trueviking]

It won't be a 20 year build out. Railside will happen quickly in my opinion. There is very strong developer interest. Hopefully the City follows shortly with Parcel Four.

[wags_in_the_peg]

Originally Posted by trueviking

It won't be a 20 year build out. Railside will happen quickly in my opinion. There is very strong developer interest. Hopefully the City follows shortly with Parcel Four.

hints if there will be any 3 bedroom places? i'd love to live there while my kids in late teens early 20's.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg

hints if there will be any 3 bedroom places? i'd love to live there while my kids in late teens early 20's.

This is a great idea.

[biguc]

Originally Posted by trueviking

It won't be a 20 year build out. Railside will happen quickly in my opinion. There is very strong developer interest. Hopefully the City follows shortly with Parcel Four.

Is there some kind of site map that the public can look at? I imagine Fort Gibraltar Trail will remain a road to provide access to parking immediately next to the tracks, while the Esplanade Riel walkway will become some kind of promenade with retail spaces?

[bomberjet]

I would hope there are 3 bedrooms. But I'm not sure if it's even gotten to that point yet. The developer RFP that just closed likely has more info on what the buildings would look like, what type of suites, etc.

Also, I don't think there's anything out to the public yet on the new layouts..

Edit: This looks to have the latest info, but no site plan I can see. It does show the smaller 6 storey buildings, with shoe store and a bar.
http://www.railsideattheforks.com/developer-information

[biguc]

Looks like they want to open little retail spaces under the tracks. That's pretty cool.