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Old Posted Apr 8, 2021, 2:42 PM
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Another fun fact is that the people of Michigan don't all agree on what to call themselves. Michiganians or Michiganders, or better yet: Meshuggeners.
The only place I see that Michiganian nonsense is the Detroit News. Everyone else says Michigander.
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^ no, cle is nowhere near the number two market for osu. for one thing, number two as compared to what? ohio? come on. im sure chillicothe for example beats it. regardless, nd is likely still bigger or as big fandom around cle than osu even today. thats not the case in cinci. unlike cle they have a real college there, uc.

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I would bet there are more people from NEO that attend OSU than anywhere else, including Columbus. It's a huge hotbed of OSU fandom because, as you state, there's no real local university with any sort of sports presence. Cleveland, the city with neighborhoods called "Ohio City" and "Buckeye-Shaker", is quintessential Ohio. No city-state vibe there, at all.
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I would bet there are more people from NEO that attend OSU than anywhere else, including Columbus. It's a huge hotbed of OSU fandom because, as you state, there's no real local university with any sort of sports presence. Cleveland, the city with neighborhoods called "Ohio City" and "Buckeye-Shaker", is quintessential Ohio. No city-state vibe there, at all.
of course more attend osu than cinci, there is no big school option there like uc. it probably does for kent, kenyon and a lot of other ohio colleges too, so what?

why do you think cle adopted nd? again, no big college and many more catholics and irish than cinci, thats why.

so no the overall osu fandom does not rate per capita there as it does vs many, many other ohio cities.
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The only place I see that Michiganian nonsense is the Detroit News. Everyone else says Michigander.
According to Wiki, a paltry 14% vouch for Michiganian as a demonym. So, I'll have to agree with you there. Anyone however lean toward Meshuggeneh?
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of course more attend osu than cinci, there is no big school option there like uc. it probably does for kent, kenyon and a lot of other ohio colleges too, so what?

why do you think cle adopted nd? again, no big college and many more catholics and irish than cinci, thats why.

so no the overall osu fandom does not rate per capita there as it does vs many, many other ohio cities.
Sigh...

Take a look at the top 10 media markets for Notre Dame's 2020 football season. You'll see three Ohio cities listed, and Cleveland isn't one of them! Cincinnati is #4. So you were saying?

https://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/2...d-in-15-years/


The whole midwest, and even midwest adjacent metros like Louisville and Pittsburgh, have large contingents of ND fans. Cleveland is not special in this regard. I also don't think Cleveland is much more Catholic, or substantially more Irish than Cincinnati. Cincy has a ton of Irish people, and most of the German immigrants to the city (far and away the biggest group) were Catholic, as they tended to come from Bavaria.
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I thought Geographic oddities was a great idea for a thread!
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The whole midwest, and even midwest adjacent metros like Louisville and Pittsburgh, have large contingents of ND fans. Cleveland is not special in this regard. I also don't think Cleveland is much more Catholic, or substantially more Irish than Cincinnati. Cincy has a ton of Irish people, and most of the German immigrants to the city (far and away the biggest group) were Catholic, as they tended to come from Bavaria.
FWIW, Notre Dame is fairly popular in the Detroit area too. ND's sports program has gotta be the third most popular among college sports in Metro Detroit, although it must be quite far behind Michigan and MSU.
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I'm pretty sure ND is #1 in chicagoland for football, thanks to northwestern's and U of I's lackluster football programs, and the metro area's GIANT catholic population (chicagoland is ~1/3 catholic, one of the highest rates in the nation among the big metros)
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According to Wiki, a paltry 14% vouch for Michiganian as a demonym. So, I'll have to agree with you there. Anyone however lean toward Meshuggeneh?
Yeah, I don't think I've ever once heard a person from Michigan refer to themselves or another person as a Michiganian. Most of us are crazy fools though, so Meshuggeneh would probably apply.

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put it this way, you know the big three st. pats parade/celebrations automatically, right? ny, boston and they turn the river green in chicago. cleveland is still number 4.

https://www.theactivetimes.com/trave...rades/slide-15

I once took a Megabus from Pittsburgh to Detroit, and we stopped in Cleveland, and it happened to be St. Patty's day and the bus stop happened to be right where all of the drunk crowds were gathered, and I remember thinking, this was a big mistake. The crowd circled the bus and pushed on it, the whole bus started rocking, as if they thought they could knock it over.
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I'm pretty sure ND is #1 in chicagoland for football, thanks to northwestern's and U of I's lackluster football programs, and the metro area's GIANT catholic population (chicagoland is ~1/3 catholic, one of the highest rates in the nation among the big metros)
When I was in Chicago, I thought that there were a lot of Michigan fans as well. I don't think I saw one U of I fan haha.
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When I was in Chicago, I thought that there were a lot of Michigan fans as well.
Yeah, between michigan alums originally from chicagoland who come back home, and transplants from michigan, the wolverines might be #2 for college football after ND. The badgers are probably #3.

that said, outside of a handful of trendy northside neighborhoods over-run with big 10 grads, chicago is a THOROUGHLY pro-sports town. college sports are a very distant second fiddle here, generally speaking.

if you polled chicagoans for their #1 football team, pro or college, i wouldn't be surprised if "da bears" beat out all other college teams combined. ditto for the bulls in basketball.



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I don't think I saw one U of I fan haha.
Come back during basketball season. U of I has a decent fan base in chicago for b-ball. It's just that their football program has been a big 10 doormat for as long as I've been alive, so pretty much nobody cares about it.
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