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Old Posted Nov 17, 2019, 8:19 PM
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Since we're talking about New England, how about Providence, RI?

Commuter rail connection to Boston, quick train trip into Boston along with Amtrak services. TF Green Airport is a Logan reliever.
Providence is pretty big on its own. Manchester is more commonly used as a secondary airport to Logan. In fact, it's called Manchester-Boston Regional Airport. But I guess that depends on where in the Boston area you lived...
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Providence is pretty big on its own. Manchester is more commonly used as a secondary airport to Logan. In fact, it's called Manchester-Boston Regional Airport. But I guess that depends on where in the Boston area you lived...
90% of the time I would fly into and out of Logan, however when I did fly out of a reliever it was Providence. I've never flown into or out of Manchester. I have flown in to Portland though.
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My husband is from Wilmington, Delaware and it's the first place that came to mind. It's definitely close to and in the orbit of Philadelphia but is a largish city on its own with a sizable skyline, important history, and sense of place independent from Philadelphia.
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Lawrence, Ks and St. Joseph, MO benefit from their proximity to Kansas City.
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Asheville is close enough to Atlanta, Charlotte, Knoxville, and Greenville-Spartanburg to get all their tourists on the weekends, and for us to start restaurants and stores and open new locations there, and for us to get locations of some of their best restaurants and stores.

Which we turn our noses up at, or only patronize while wearing elaborate disguises because this is Asheville and we don't do chains. It just wouldn't do to be caught patronizing a chain.

Although we want you to patronize the homegrown ones we send to you.
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Houma-Thibodaux and possibly even Baton Rouge benefit from being within close proximity to New Orleans. This mostly applies in terms of entertainment and transportation options.
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Athens definitely is enhanced by the presence of Atlanta nearby.You have acess to airport, entertainment, etc. Atlanta also provides a lot of the student body for the school... and it would likely not be as academically rigorous if it weren't for ATL. Many people from Atlanta also go up there for weekends and stuff which support a lot of the restaurants and stuff.
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Fort Worth benefited so much from Dallas it isn’t its own metro any more.

Its a tad more complicated than that. The two operate pretty independently, the culture is different, the vibe is distinctly different and there is a real cousin type rivalry.
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Having never been, I assume that Lowell, Lawrence and Worcester, MA have all benefited from being near Boston.
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But those are not independent metro areas, but part of Boston’s.
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How many of these cities actually gain from being near a larger neighbour though? There might be some population spillover from commuters in search of cheaper housing, but at the same time they're also competing for jobs, amenities, attractions, etc.
i'd say that it's a double edged sword that can cut both ways for the smaller city.

in the case of chicago and milwaukee, milwaukee does benefit by having access to a major global air hub like o'hare, but that comes at the expense of milwaukee's own airport having compromised service levels because too many milwaukee air passengers forgo it altogether and just drive down to o'hare to take advantage of its profoundly greater service options.

if milwaukee were moved north to where green bay is (180 miles from chicago vs. 80 miles), its airport would almost certainly see higher service levels.
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Lancaster, Harrisburg and York also benefits from being close to the Baltimore/Washington DC area.


Many people who live in South Central Pennsylvania use both BWI and PHL. As a side note, I have even used IAD and EWR for international travel. It is also not uncommon to find people who live along the fringes of the core South Central Pennsylvania counties commuting to either the Philly area or say Harford and Baltimore Counties, etc. in Maryland.

Many people in this area take advantage of the cultural, social and recreational opportunities in the Baltimore/Washington DC area. Day/weekend trips to those cities are quite common.


I will say Lancaster definitely has more of a connection to the Philly region. York is more in Baltimore's orbit. Harrisburg is a bit of a mixture, but the connection to Philly is stronger.
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As a side note, I have even used IAD and EWR for international travel.
I'm assuming for flights on United?
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Some nearby dependencies. . . all methodologies are anecdotal musings (mine). . .

Regional
Chicago <--- Rockford
Chicago <--- South Bend, IN

Suburban
Chicago <--- Gary, IN
Chicago <--- Joliet
Chicago <--- Aurora
Chicago <--- Elgin
Chicago <--- Waukegan
Chicago <--- Kenosha, WI
Milwaukee <--- Racine, WI
Milwaukee <--- Waukesha, WI

Inter-urban
Chicago <--- Champaign/Urbana
Chicago <--- Bloomington/Normal
Chicago <--- Springfield
Chicago <--- Milwaukee
Chicago <--- Madison
Milwaukee <--- Madison
Milwaukee <--- Green Bay
Milwaukee <--- Fox Cities

Inter-regional
Chicago <--- Minneapolis
Chicago <--- St. Louis
Chicago <--- Indianapolis
Chicago <--- Louisville
Chicago <--- Columbus
Chicago <--- Cleveland
Chicago <--- Detroit

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Old Posted Nov 18, 2019, 8:59 PM
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I'm assuming for flights on United?
Actually on flag carriers
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I'd also like to point out that Chicago benefits from having Milwaukee nearby for some of the same reasons, including access to a good third option airport for travelers in the northern Chicago suburbs.
Why would somebody in Chicagoland opt for Milwaukee's airport over ORD? I can't think of a single reason why that would be a logical decision.
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Actually on flag carriers
Yeah, people who live in central New Jersey have the best options for air travel in the entire country. Every foreign carrier that can get there will fly to either Newark or JFK, but if you're flying within North America you can avoid the NY shit show by going to Philadelphia.
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Why would somebody in Chicagoland opt for Milwaukee's airport over ORD? I can't think of a single reason why that would be a logical decision.
To avoid O'Hare?
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Why would somebody in Chicagoland opt for Milwaukee's airport over ORD? I can't think of a single reason why that would be a logical decision.
Joe was specifically talking about people form the northern chicago burbs (ie. lake county).

my sister lives up in Lake Villa (~8 miles west of Great America) and her family has flown out of MKE a handful of times for vacations because it's not any further for them to drive up there than it is to ORD (ORD is 41 miles driving distance from her house, MKE is 45 miles). the parking rates are cheaper and the airport itself is very low stress/low hassle compared to ORD.

so if the schedule and price are competitive, she says that she much prefers using MKE, because the driving distance is a wash for her.

now, would someone living in or Glenview or Glen Ellyn or Glenwood be likely to use MKE over chicago's two airports? no.
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