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Originally Posted by bzcat
Isn’t Metro’s prefer Station for Red/purple locates at 3rd Street? So if WSAB ends at 6th, you still need to somehow extend the heavy rail line south.
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Regarding Division 20 conversations, that is a pretty straight track with some switches near the ends.
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Originally Posted by bzcat
And I thought Scott explained the problem with ending WSAB at Union Station in his blog post pretty well... there is no good transfer options between WSAB and gold and red/purple line. And there is a lot of push back from CAHSR and other stakeholders.
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With the "pushback" that is mostly from CAHSR on the Link Union Station run through tracks that they have provided no funding for.
bzcat, you mean Metrolink and Amtrak aren't good transfer options for commuters? Nor with some simple upgrades to improve frequency on Metrolink that this connection won't be needed in the future?
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Originally Posted by NSMP
Jerard, the extensions you list as available from the AD are part of the problem. I’m fine with serving Mission or Whittier, but doing so by way of another giant C-shaped Line that only touches the border of downtown is a real detriment.
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Now with the options I mentioned,
Did I suggest or imply that WSAB is the route or vehicle to provide those extensions?
(I'll wait for your response and chuckled reaction)
Because from the looks of things, The Red and Purple Line could go down
Whittier Blvd from the 6th Street station (as discussed on previous posts within this Transportation thread).
Same thing could happen to reach County USC and CSULA
(as also discussed on previous posts within this Transportation thread) because then the network has a better reach because through that one connection point at Union Station there are multiple services or route options that can do the very things we are talking about.
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...Serving Chavez to Glendale Bl to get to Glendale means that we’ve made Union Station the most important transfer point in downtown (which I do fee very strongly we shouldn’t do), with no opportunity to change trains for southbound riders from Glendale and Echo Park before then. And of course, no easy connection to the Expo line at all.
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But wait, wait first the Expo Line isn't important and is a determent in one post and now it goes back to being something badly needed? (And I am not talking your posts Scott, I am looking at others on here) There is a lot of inconsistencies in posts made here about these projects with respect to the network that I wish posters can understand why some for the sake of the network makes no sense.
That is what I am reacting to.
Plus for context sake with the Regional Connector in actual operation; the
Blue Line will operate from Long Beach through Downtown CBD to Pasadena, Azusa and Claremont.
Expo Line from Santa Monica to East LA and either South El Monte or Whittier. Which makes the Expo Line argument faulty because that can be adjusted through new routing or with one change on the same platform as the Blue Line from South Park to Little Tokyo.
Doesn't require a new $2 Billion route to make that change.
With WSAB sharing track or stations with the Blue Line, my argument is that we have built in redundancy in place already so if a new corridor is going to be built for capacity let's use that capacity to where the system needs it most at that is replacing the current Washington Blvd at-grade operation to run more reliable service through the CBD.
Actually the most important transfer points are 7th Street Metro Center, Imperial Wilmington and Union Station, with Regional Connection in operation Pico/South Park, Little Tokyo will expand its role as a transfer point. As the system expands more transfer points will be made.