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Old Posted Apr 26, 2015, 9:05 PM
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Victor Hugo Beverly Hills

Sounds très grand. Much too grand for me:


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Here is a group of slides from 1952 that resemble today's Instagrams.

Another type of mystery, 'The Mystery of Life'. (I believe this is Forest Lawn, Glendale)


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Old Posted Apr 26, 2015, 10:30 PM
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I recently came across this impressive sepia postcard of Castle Rock.


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Here's an earlier post.

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Castle Rock was down the coast a little, near Santa Monica, and survived until 1945. It was knocked down to widen the Coast Highway.


http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...ks-of-pch.html


http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...ks-of-pch.html

They left a tiny park/viewing area in its place. I think you can only get up there from the beach however.


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Good eye CityBoyDoug! I think you're correct.


http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id...anguage,E.html

I believe this postcard shows the same green awning with stripes that you can see in the 1952 slide.

And CBD's second photograph shows the oval windows (there's one visible in the 1952 slide).
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I had to smile at "Deanna Durbin hotspots".
Here's the 1940 menu for Victor Hugo's. That $1.75 Steak would be $30 in 2015 adjusted for inflation.

I know that I ate from the Children's Menu when we went there around 1955. I recall I had liver pate' instead of a salad. Probably followed by hamburger patty, mashed potato & a veg of some type.

They must have been ''child'' friendly otherwise we would never have gone there. We were 4 children, plus parents and relatives. My stepfather liked upscale restaurants that catered to children.



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Old Posted Apr 26, 2015, 11:53 PM
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Norma Jean Dougherty at Castle Rock, July 1945:

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Undated postcard (Castle Rock behind and Haystack Rock and the Family Group at right:

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There's a couple of pages of views of Castle Rock at SMPL

...and Arch Rock too.

Good KCET feature on Castle Rock and Arch Rock here (also with lots of pix)



Something's going on at the Haystack:

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I really like that image of Marilyn at Castle Rock t2. I wonder what's happening in that Google aerial?



"Downtown Los Angeles, 1970s."



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Do you think that Dictaphone truck is full of secretaries with their dictaphones?



As far as I can tell, the city bus was located at the intersection of Maple avenue and 6th Street. (in the red circle below)


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Today, there is a two-story building around the parking lot where the Dictaphone truck was parked (northwest corner).

...but this two-story building looks fairly old to me (yet it's missing in the 1970s slide).

Do I have the correct corner?


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Just for fun, here's how much the B.Black & Sons signs has faded since the 1970s.


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Interesting V. Hugo menu CBD. So you liked eating liver pate' as a kid.
Once in Chicago, I saw a little kid each a whole plate of tofu. I was pretty impressed.

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Noir and the Dictaphone.


http://filmcityla.blogspot.com/2014/...nity-1944.html

"A car races through the dark, hazy streets of Los Angeles. It stops in front of an office building on Olive Street, a man gets out,
staggers into the lobby, gets into an elevator, gets out, enters an office, sits down at a
dictaphone, and begins to record
a sordid story about lust, adultery, greed, and murder---as blood slowly seeps through his shirt
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http://www.glamamor.com/2012/01/cine...-stanwyck.html



1940 Dictaphone Ad.

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Congratulations e_r on 1400 noirish thread pages.

That must mean it's time to check in again with noir beauty queen/murderess/madam/etc Hazel Glab
here on June 26, 1928:


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To be honest i think thats the building that was along fairfax....it housed "Antique Alley" which i went to every weekend when i was in my early teens,it was a long building that went along Fairfax,and it veered east towards the Gilmore Adobe...think of it as a mini mall...halfway to the Adobe was a clock tower that they moved when they built the grove...A friend from my Boy Scout Troop use to work at the toy store adjacent to the Antique alley.
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I really like that image of Marilyn at Castle Rock t2. I wonder what's happening in that Google aerial?


Interesting V. Hugo menu CBD. So you liked eating liver pate' as a kid.
Once in Chicago, I saw a little kid each a whole plate of tofu. I was pretty impressed.
LOL, I guess its all my mother's fault, ER. She taught me to eat all kinds of different food.

She grew up in the Depression and she taught us eat what we were given with no complaints. When she came to LA to get a divorce, she worked as a waitress at the Hollywood Athletic Club and downtown LA.

When we finally had a new ''father'' and a home, her favorite comment was, "You eat what you're given, this isn't a short-order house."
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I really like that image of Marilyn at Castle Rock t2. I wonder what's happening in that Google aerial?
I think they're just shoring up PCH. It's forever falling into the ocean. They're way too close to the Haystack to suit me though.

And yes, Marilyn took a nice picture, the beach ones maybe nicest of all:

1949, Andre de Dienes

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As far as I can tell, the city bus was located at the intersection of Maple avenue and 6th Street. (in the red circle below)


google_earth

Today, there is a two-story building around the parking lot where the Dictaphone truck was parked (northwest corner).

...but this two-story building looks fairly old to me (yet it's missing in the 1970s slide).

Do I have the correct corner?
The 1964 aerial shows buildings covering most of the block, but it was a parking lot by 1972. As far as I can see, the current building appeared between 1994 and 2003. The view below is fron 1980.


Historic Aerials

While I was on Historic Aerials, I took a look at Macy Street. Here's the Cudahy Packing plant in 1948. I've arrowed what I think is the "little formal garden" pointed out by e_r.


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Noir and the Dictaphone.


http://filmcityla.blogspot.com/2014/...nity-1944.html

"A car races through the dark, hazy streets of Los Angeles. It stops in front of an office building on Olive Street, a man gets out,
staggers into the lobby, gets into an elevator, gets out, enters an office, sits down at a
dictaphone, and begins to record
a sordid story about lust, adultery, greed, and murder---as blood slowly seeps through his shirt
."


http://www.glamamor.com/2012/01/cine...-stanwyck.html



1940 Dictaphone Ad.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-Ad-Dict...-/331167776501

Looking west on 5th Street at Pershing Square, Double Indemnity, 1944

Opening credits to Double Indemnity, Walter Neff at speed east bound on 5th
closes on a Los Angeles Railway Corp Maintenance crew. Hard to believe these
little smudge pots were all we had for caution lights back in the day. These
guys are making a welding repair to a rail across from the Philharmonic
Auditorium (out-of-frame on the right) and Pershing Square (out-of-frame on
the left) with the Hotel San Carlos over there on the right, with the Coca Cola
sign, and just the corner of the Biltmore over here on the left. In the distance
we can make out the sign atop the Monarch Hotel on the NW corner of 5th and
Figueroa and the taller, anonymous, Architects Building, the dark sentinel on
the left side of 5th behind the Biltmore.

Paramount Pictures, Billy Wilder, 1944


Walter Neff near miss at Olive and 6th, 1944

Walter Neff, wounded and bleeding, skids his Plymouth coupe through the
intersection of 6th Street (runs right to left) and Olive, with the re-designed
Philharmonic in the background north of Pershing Square on 5th Street, barely
missing a Los Angeles Times distribution truck.

Double Indemnity, Billy Wilder, Paramount Pictures (1944)
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The Double Indemnity script--link from prior post 13236


http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Double-Indemnity.html


To split hairs...according to the script, Walter is driving his 1938 Dodge coupe erratically on a downtown street at 2 a.m...although it's hard to tell what make was used in the film in the opening shots. In the script, it's the Dietrichsons who have a Plymouth, and a LaSalle...

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It sure was fun browsing through the 'Double Indemnity' script. Thanks for posting the link again GW.


I'm looking for some help in identifying this apartment building and the name of this movie.
I took the following screen-grabs over four years ago. I've never posted them because of the lack of information.

The biggest clue I have, is the actor Harvey Keitel. I read through his list of movies on IMDB hoping that a title might jog my memory.
I had no idea the number of films Mr. Keitel was in in the 1970s and 80s. (from the look of my screen-grabs I'd say the movie was from the late 1980s)


Here's the apartment building in question. The modern building in the background makes me think it might be somewhere near downtown
Los Angeles, or perhaps Century City.


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What's really cool is that they actually filmed inside the building as well.




Interesting wrought iron lighting fixture and unique moldings over the doorways.





The same arched windows we saw in the exterior view.





I was quite surprised to see this impressive skylight!




A closer look at that arched window and half of Harvey's face.


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Later, there's a scene at a rather noirish looking motel. If I remember correctly, we have seen this motel several times on NLA.*





*I found the earlier post. Here's the Paradise Motel in a photograph taken my David 390dxer.
The address is 1116 Sunset Boulevard near Beaudry.


David / 390dxer at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23735




Later there is a scene at a motor court that is reminiscent of the one used in L.A. Confidential.


this sign looks fake to me.




That's it. Get working you sleuths!

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MR, Which building is that at upper right?


Double Indemnity, Billy Wilder, Paramount Pictures (1944)
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"A car races through the dark, hazy streets of Los Angeles."
I love these opening scenes of Double Indeminity!
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Later there is a scene at a motor court that is reminiscent of the one used in L.A. Confidential.

this sign looks fake to me.


That's it. Get working you sleuths!
I think the sign's real. I found a short video called A classic car drives away from the "Lazy Acres Motel" which finishes with this shot.


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Then I found an entry on getmyhotel.com that lists the Lazy Acres Motel in Sylmar at 12215 San Fernando Road. The number "2215" on e_r's screengrab must be missing the first "1". Here's how the site looks today.


Google Maps

I can't see any trace of Lazy Acres - the sign by the gate just says "Now Renting". The next door Sylmar Motel on the corner of Bleeker Street looks like it's still in business.


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Wow, I'm completely surprised Hoss. I just took it for granted 'Lazy Acres' was a made-up name.

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MR, Which building is that at upper right?


Double Indemnity, Billy Wilder, Paramount Pictures (1944)
That's this building...


The Title Guarantee Building, 5th Street and S. Hill

NW corner 5th and Hill Streets.

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Here's the apartment building in question. The modern building in the background makes me think it might be somewhere near downtown
Los Angeles, or perhaps Century City.


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I haven't found the apartment yet, but the building in the background looks like the notorious Equitable, which ate the Chapman Park Hotel after they promised they wouldn't.

Thx MR. Got it, Milliron's

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