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Old Posted Mar 1, 2017, 4:42 PM
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What are the official plans for Solo Serve? I remember hearing about multiple things that were proposed but one was declined.
https://therivardreport.com/river-wa...be-demolished/

An 8-story hotel



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Old Posted Mar 1, 2017, 6:46 PM
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building 1 of 3 is just about down.

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Such a prime piece of land for just an eight story hotel. Should have been 20 or 25 stories tall building.
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Such a prime piece of land for just an eight story hotel. Should have been 20 or 25 stories tall building.
and not ugly!
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 3:54 PM
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and not ugly!

IT IS WHAT IT IS!!
Let it go!
Unless, you're a developer, then construct a 50 story tower in that location.
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 3:56 PM
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and not ugly!
Oh, and I consider "UGLY", the delapidated, infested, Solo Serve buildings that are being demolished.
ADIOS SOLO SERVE!!!

Have a good one today in SA!!
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 5:00 PM
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Oh, and I consider "UGLY", the delapidated, infested, Solo Serve buildings that are being demolished.
ADIOS SOLO SERVE!!!

Have a good one today in SA!!
haha, good point.
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 5:17 PM
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2017, 9:19 PM
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Such a prime piece of land for just an eight story hotel. Should have been 20 or 25 stories tall building.
I read somewhere that they do not want high rises lining the entire riverwalk if I remember right so I wonder if certain areas have high restrictions???
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Old Posted Mar 3, 2017, 12:44 AM
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I read somewhere that they do not want high rises lining the entire riverwalk if I remember right so I wonder if certain areas have high restrictions???
There are height restrictions based on solar access to the river. There's not an official height limit, however. Various heights in various places are appropriate.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2017, 4:25 AM
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I still don't understand why SA is scared of building tall...

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It can happen, but not near the Riverwalk. More like on the outer parts of downtown like the Frost and JMJ lots, and around Weston.
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I still don't understand why SA is scared of building tall...
It doesn't make sense financially. No one is going to do that just for the sake of doing it.

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Old Posted Mar 6, 2017, 5:38 AM
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It doesn't make sense financially. No one is going to do that just for the sake of doing it.
There is money in San Antonio, we are just a little be behind the times. Look at our non existent mass transit....we will be screwed in 20 years or so if the population is suppose to double by then...

At least SA is trying to add to the downtown, even a hotel is good. There is not enough good hotels...this is a tourist town by the way...
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Saw this at night

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[IMG]San Antonio Skyline by Raul Medina III, on Flickr[/IMG]

I am not liking that billboard on top of the Weston!
And I agree, it's hideous during the day, at night, it actually looks better. Blue with white lettering.

I do wish they had found a better size/design/way of mounting, something, to make it look better during the day.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2017, 10:06 PM
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There is money in San Antonio, we are just a little be behind the times.
To what money are you referring. It is cost prohibitive to build tall if the developer (and his/her financial partners) do not make a certain margin on their investment.

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Look at our non existent mass transit....we will be screwed in 20 years or so if the population is suppose to double by then...
SA's population will not double in 20 years. More realistically (and based on the growth pattern of the last 10 years), it will be closer to 28-33 years (sometime between 2045 & 2050).

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At least SA is trying to add to the downtown, even a hotel is good. There is not enough good hotels...this is a tourist town by the way...
I'm not sure how you, personally, would define "good," but, I would agree the city could benefit from a few more lodging developments.

A lot of SA's "tourists" do not stay for the night. Thus, there is no demand for a huge number of overall hotel rooms. SA is not on par with Vegas, Orlando, or even Houston when speaking of the need for overnight options, as each of those cities realize far more "tourists" on an annual basis than does SA.
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Speaking of tourism

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To what money are you referring. It is cost prohibitive to build tall if the developer (and his/her financial partners) do not make a certain margin on their investment.



SA's population will not double in 20 years. More realistically (and based on the growth pattern of the last 10 years), it will be closer to 28-33 years (sometime between 2045 & 2050).



I'm not sure how you, personally, would define "good," but, I would agree the city could benefit from a few more lodging developments.

A lot of SA's "tourists" do not stay for the night. Thus, there is no demand for a huge number of overall hotel rooms. SA is not on par with Vegas, Orlando, or even Houston when speaking of the need for overnight options, as each of those cities realize far more "tourists" on an annual basis than does SA.
And I know this may be going off-topic, but this is an interesting article:

https://therivardreport.com/getting-...sitor-economy/

Lurking beneath the growing debate about marketing and branding San Antonio are statistics that are not found in press releases about San Antonio’s $13.4 billion visitor economy. Unpublished numbers tracked by the San Antonio Area Tourism Council (see charts) show a steady decline in visitor interest in the Alamo and Alamo Plaza, the River Walk barges and even the San Antonio Zoo. San Antonio’s long celebrated regional tourism market seems to be flat, at best, or actually shrinking.


It seems real numbers are hard to find, and what we are being told does not add up.

If the tourism numbers are correct, then we are woefully lacking in hotel rooms, and if we are not lacking in hotel rooms, then the tourism numbers are not correct, and likely way too high.

I was surprised that SA has only 35,000 or so hotel rooms. I would have thought we have more.
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2017, 4:36 PM
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To what money are you referring. It is cost prohibitive to build tall if the developer (and his/her financial partners) do not make a certain margin on their investment.



SA's population will not double in 20 years. More realistically (and based on the growth pattern of the last 10 years), it will be closer to 28-33 years (sometime between 2045 & 2050).


I'm not sure how you, personally, would define "good," but, I would agree the city could benefit from a few more lodging developments.

A lot of SA's "tourists" do not stay for the night. Thus, there is no demand for a huge number of overall hotel rooms. SA is not on par with Vegas, Orlando, or even Houston when speaking of the need for overnight options, as each of those cities realize far more "tourists" on an annual basis than does SA.

Yep, we will never get tall....maybe in 2050....

Ok I over stated the population growth, more like 25 to 35 percent growth in 20 years.....maybe....

Yep we are losing in the tourist front now, people don't care about the Alamo or the River walk anymore....that is true, but hopefully something else will be built downtown to bring in the tourists...Not sure what that would be...
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2017, 6:34 PM
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And I know this may be going off-topic, but this is an interesting article:

https://therivardreport.com/getting-...sitor-economy/

Lurking beneath the growing debate about marketing and branding San Antonio are statistics that are not found in press releases about San Antonio’s $13.4 billion visitor economy. Unpublished numbers tracked by the San Antonio Area Tourism Council (see charts) show a steady decline in visitor interest in the Alamo and Alamo Plaza, the River Walk barges and even the San Antonio Zoo. San Antonio’s long celebrated regional tourism market seems to be flat, at best, or actually shrinking.


It seems real numbers are hard to find, and what we are being told does not add up.

If the tourism numbers are correct, then we are woefully lacking in hotel rooms, and if we are not lacking in hotel rooms, then the tourism numbers are not correct, and likely way too high.

I was surprised that SA has only 35,000 or so hotel rooms. I would have thought we have more.
We actually have 47,000 but I thought it would be more.
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2017, 12:58 AM
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Seems like there would be more hotel rooms considering the amount of tourism the city gets. The recent numbers of visitors in The Alamo City per year is right around 32.5 million or equivalent to the entire population of Canada. So that is almost 90,000 people visiting per day, so in short San Antonio is severely lacking in the hotel department.

Link providing details about visitors to San Antonio.
http://visitsanantonio.com/nttw
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